Why McCain just MIGHT NOT win..

Well, I wouldn't worry too much about the solid Republican west, andy. I think it's solid as ever for the Republican Party. And I wouldn't assume that the Arizona Republicans are any more solid for McCain than any of the neighboring states. Remember that it was the Arizona Republican Party that was one of the first state organizations to embrace GWB in the 2000 campaign -- while McCain was more than viable in the race.

And I don't give much credit to there being a lot of disgusted Republicans staying home. I think there'll be a good turnout with two candidates who disagree so strongly on so many key points.

It bears saying again. If McCain meets Clinton in the race, McCain's president by 100-125 electoral votes. If McCain meets Obama in the race, McCain's president by 150-175 votes. And I won't be unhappy with either result.

I just wish that January 2009 would have been the culmination of eight years of a McCain presidency rather than beginning of four years. We would ALL be better off today if this were the case.

 

Holy Crap, Lyle; we agree about something! :?: :shock: :lol:

 

andy, I understand why there are "single-issue" voters, and I know that it was those whose single issue was abortion who turned the tide for Bush against Gore in 2000. Having said that, voting against a guy in YOUR party because he doesn't grasp your single issue as strongly as you feel he should is -- pardon my bluntness -- ludicrous. So is assuming that (a) once elected the Democrat would be easy to unseat in four years and (b) that the party whose social conservatives so shunned the Mormon Romney in favor of the Southern Baptist Huckabee will find -- in four years -- the Mormon candidate more palatable.

What Romney has shown the Republican check writers is that even with his resume behind him, he can't beat a guy who was declared dead 6 months before the Iowa caucuses, and the South doesn't buy his social conservative credentials. Why would they trust him to unseat a Democratic incumbent?

No, what's really going to happen is that the Hate Obama machine that's already in full cry [see the Reverend Wright hysteria and this site's Obama women thread as early examples. It'll get much worse by the week.] will convince the Republican faithful that staying home or voting for the Democrats will be turning the country over to the wrong people. Perhaps those people who voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004 because of his abortion stance, will look back at his 8 years and see a ravaged economy, an unnecessary war, rising debt and financial shenanigans, and abortion STILL BEING LEGAL IN 50 STATES and decide to vote for the candidate they really like. But many will still feel that the Republican Party is their natural home.

Regardless of how much McCain ignores them, the right-wing bloggers and hate radio jocks will continue to trash Obama and energize their listeners in the sure [and certain?] hope that they can then convince McCain that he owes his presidency to them.

Anyhow, that's where I see it. Poll your friends in late October and see how many have changed their tune.

Speaking of conservative, my McCain margin of victory may be conservative. This may be a 1984 Reagan-style landslide.

 

speaking of situational ethics, how can you equate screwing up a joke about the "quality" of Bush's Ivy League education with kicking over the corpse of Obama's mother?

Elitist? You mean unlike the poor downtrodden background of the Bushes and the hand-to-mouth existence of the Oil Company billionaires? It calls to mind the attempt of The Great God Reagan to kill the teacher's union by calling them "educational elitists." I remember him doing that in a speech he made to a $1000 a plate breakfast audience. No schoolteachers there, you betcha.

And on to the pictures:

Do you honestly believe that Kerry hates the troops in Iraq?
Do you honestly believe that Obama hates people who live in small towns?
Do you honestly believe that anyone other than the mindless deluded who buy all the crap that Rush and Hannity and O'Reilly make up out of whole cloth?
Really?

And what do you base that belief on? Or are you just trying to justify the lies and filth spewed into public discourse by the right wing jocks and bloggers by going, "But Mommie, he looked at me funny."

I'm so pleased that Senator McCain slapped that Cincinnati asshole down IN PUBLIC and IN OHIO.

 

Of course I remember. He was trying to make a joke -- as I said -- about the quality of the president's Yale education. He stumbled in the proces -- he can't tell jokes; I guess that makes him worse than BEING A JOKE.

Everyone who heard the joke realized two things:

a. that what he ALMOST said was: study hard in college and get good grades or you're likely to do something stupid like get the country stuck in Iraq.
b. that the right wing was going to jump all over the stumble.

For a little context, any of you who are still reading this, this came just a few weeks after the President spoke to a group of college students and bragged about how he was a C student and he could still run the country.

So, back to my questions -- do you believe that this screwed up joke means that Kerry hates the troops? And do you believe that Obama really hates small town people, or are you just trying to contribute to the poisoning of his well?