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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by pettyfog, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. SoCalJoe

    SoCalJoe Well-Known Member

    Sep 5, 2006
    Walnut, CA
    Re: IOC..ole

    HD, not every US city has lost money hosting, quite the contrary. The Peter Ueberroth led 84' games of LA made the city well over $200 million (and that was 25 years ago) and in many ways is the model for a successfully run games. Without researching, I believe the Winter Olympics (different animal for sure) of both Lake Placid and SLC made money (perhaps Oms can enlighten).

    The reason more than anything else that Chicago didn't get the bid is less Bush resentment than the symbol for the games. One look at the flag w/its five rings symbolizing the continents and South America receiving their first ever Olympics has to be the number one reason. In other was their turn.
  2. stlouisbrad

    stlouisbrad Well-Known Member

    Nov 24, 2007
    I'm sad to see Chicago not get it, because it would have been nice to be close to such an event and St. Louis was probably going to host an event or two here. I really can't argue against Rio getting it because it just made sense for a South American country to have a chance to host it.
  3. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    Well, it's never about making or losing money, anyway.

    And it IS time the event was in SA.

    But here's another salient point:

    Of course that doesnt apply across the board.. either to individuals or govts. Or NGO's for that matter.
    Here's the thing... when you are constantly apologizing for those traits, the listener might get the idea you have a problem with self-esteem.
  4. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    But note the commenter on Plato. His philosophy was pretty basic stuff.

    The thing was, Plato warned against 'relativistic' or situational ethics. While 'enlightened and informed INTELLECTUALS' seem to think mankind has 'progressed' to where that self-centered crap flies.

    I mentioned the Bible account on Sodom and Gomorrah, recently. That wasnt about queers.. it was about this.
  5. Clevelandmo

    Clevelandmo Active Member

    Sep 13, 2007
    Re: RE: IOC: Olé!

    Well, I dont want the olympics shut down, but otherwise I completely agree with your sentiments. I still mostly look forward to the track and field and swimming. It bums me out that those athletes' shinning moments are distracted from by the dream team, Federer and other world famous professional athletes.
  6. WhitesBhoy

    WhitesBhoy Active Member

    Jul 9, 2008
    The Beach, For Now
    Went to the Olympics in Atlanta. Apparently, they made money on the event, but it sure looked and felt like they sold their soul in the process.
  7. FFC24

    FFC24 New Member

    Jan 6, 2005
    I'm happy they're not iin Chicago. Who wants to go to Chicago anyway? I'd much rather head down south and party in Rio. Chicago is boring while RIo is supposed to be amazing.

    HOWEVER, never stop at a red light. You might get robbed.
  8. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    Elucidate.. are you talking about Rio, or South Side?
  9. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    Coming to take me away.. ah-ha!

    Life's Rich Tapestry
    I dunno... but our weird shit is on a higher level.
    Witness Letterman

    And Weinstein's drive to absolve Polanski..

    Next up: "Manson/Tate just Performance Art gone horribly wrong"
  10. HatterDon

    HatterDon Moderator

    Mar 18, 2006
    Peoples Republic of South Texas
    Re: Coming to take me away.. ah-ha!

    Ah, the oldies. There's nothing like the bloody butchering of a bunch of Hollywood types to make Family Values Conservatives smile and chuckle.
  11. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    RE: Re: Coming to take me away.. ah-ha!

    I take it you're signing the 'Free Manson' petition then?
  12. WhitesBhoy

    WhitesBhoy Active Member

    Jul 9, 2008
    The Beach, For Now
    Re: Coming to take me away.. ah-ha!

    Not funny.
  13. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    RE: Re: Coming to take me away.. ah-ha!

    Neither is the rape of a 13 year old... no matter what the spin.

    But, sometimes.....
  14. HatterDon

    HatterDon Moderator

    Mar 18, 2006
    Peoples Republic of South Texas
    Which is why none of us made a joke out of it.
  15. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    Human Comedy

    Is that right!
    Sometimes one's views are made apparent by what one finds funny.

    As a mere layman without benefit of academic inculcation of political correctness.. or even staying at Holiday Inn Express.. I have had to observe human nature up close and personal and have always been interested in individual reaction to chaos and stressful events.

    Granted I have had to go to 'authoritative sources' to define what I observed but, generally, reaction to outrageous issues and events boils down to:

    Acceptance - find ways of coping

    Denial - ignore or deflect

    In my past I've used plenty of both mechanisms.

    The social / world situation at this time dictates that, to retain my sanity, I accept and cope.

    One mechanism for that is known as 'Dark Comedy' even to the extreme point of 'Gallows Humor'

    I'm sure hoping that, at some time, I dont have to resort to the extreme but there is always the chance that it will come to that..and for all of us.

    Now as to the reference to Weinstein's Absolution for Child Rapists vs Tate/Manson, how about we leave the issue of whether that's funny to me and Ms Tate and God!
    you certainly have the right to express your view that it isnt funny to YOU, but I have to respond "Why isnt it funny?"

    Is it because it shakes your world view? Specifically regarding the efficacy of Elite and Informed Opinion?

    Some seem to resort quite often to the Denial - Deflect mechanism. To do that, interestingly they {rhetorical} resort to pointing to two of the greatest practitioners of 'Dark Humor' currently extant. To wit: Limbaugh and Beck.
    And also interestingly they even do that outside the frame of domestic and geo-politic issues.

    One must sympathathize with the anxiety at the root of that and we've all done it.

    Even I do it. I've totally stopped watching all news on the media.. yes, even FoxNews.
    To replace that source, I resort to reading on the net. The reason for that is I am better able to avoid unpleasant news by simply skipping over or refusing to click.

    That's called 'Denial-Avoidance'.

    That means I avoid reading, let alone commenting. I suggest that others rely on that.. and I'm sure most do.

    However to buttress my tendency to accept through humor, I find myself listening more, to not only Limbaugh, but also Beck whom I had avoided for a couple of years.

    I'll make no apologies for that. And if you pick Olbermann, or even Shephard Smith, well.. that's your choice.

    Now here's the nut of it: I'm sure Saul Alinsky approves. He defined the system, after all.

    So there!
  16. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    Ultimate 'MrGoodbar': Drac!

    Now for some 'Dark Humor' to deflect anxiety...

    Totally UnAuthoritarian Observation on Opinion on Why Women Love Vampires and Men Dont.

    Or viewed another way.. superior competition! Dracula even makes Bronson and The Rock look like Beta-Males.

    Reason for Link to the link: Bonus 'Ewwww - Yuck!' material. Which is needed because there's really nothing new in the Gurlz & Vampire discussion. Read it all before.
  17. HatterDon

    HatterDon Moderator

    Mar 18, 2006
    Peoples Republic of South Texas
    Nice essay, but the reason why none of us made a joke out of a 13-year-old rape victim is that it rapes her all over again. Making a joke about the butchering of an 8 1/2 month pregnant woman and her unborn child has the same effect, and is even more egregious when done by a "family values conservative."

    Regardless of your political persuasion, jokes about rape and multiple murder just ain't funny.
  18. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    Don... you REALLY DO seem to be slow on the uptake!

    If you REALLY TRULY feel that way why not attack those who are justifying it?

    Instead of deflecting virtual blame to me.
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    - totally made up Dark Humor. And I refuse to connect dots and number them.
  19. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    Watching West Wing

    Been watching the Reruns on Bravo. I think it's far more topical today than when it aired.

    Amazing the 'Hollywood crowd' can show the humanity involved on both sides in that show, while either protecting their own interests or remaining silent on other issues outside the political sphere.
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    Followed by the 'Real Housewives of Atlanta'. I advise passing on that. Those wimmin are far more vacuous than the West Coast version. Go figger! NOW must be SO proud.
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    'Fake but Accurate' wins out!

    A. Rush should'a known better. Even if the Black Players Association had endorsed or remained silent, he still would have been assassinated on principle. The left doesnt give one damn about facts, just image.

    2. When this goes on it's interesting that some still pine for us to be 'brought together' Aint never gonna effin' happen, while...!

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    The REAL Dow - 7537

    Who sez we dont have a Gold Standard! Oh, wait... that's one specialist commodity against a market basket, isnt it! But, still..

    PS: I suppose the Paulian idiots will resume the cry for an Official Gold Standard. Yeah, that would work.. if you want to nail shut the dollar coffin for good. Where's that bullion gonna come from?

    Think about it... the CPI is really at the lowest in years when adjusted. That cant last forever but it helps in the short term. Problem being when the dam breaks and that will happen soon, when the commercial mortgage market bust erupts.

    But the economy will start to get better when the HC bill is shoved under the tent flaps, of course. Simple economics
  20. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2005
    Fake but Accurate..

    or Accurate but Alarming

    Wherein Charles Johnson {LGF} continues to whittle down his readership by pointing to Soros' little hatesite.

    It's hard for me to belittle LGF because, as I said before, many of his core points ARE accurate. Such as the unhealthy influence of Christian Creationists on local and state education politics. And he WAS the driving force in getting Dan Rather out of the 'News' business. {interesting point in relation to current WH pronouncements}

    And he has the same view of Pat Buchanan as I do...

    Yet I could go through post after LGF post and parse out slanted inaccurate views in his own words.
    If he's gonna go after Rush, he's going to have to do better than this... only Don and other 'feel-goods' think Rush is spreading hate. What's needed is a sense of humor. And Charles really never had one.

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    George Soros in the 'Far Left'?

    Senator Orrin Hatch with Andrea Mitchell, on MoveOn{dot} org


    Charles has no comment on minutiae like this, but if he was so sensitive to nuance as he claims, he would agree with me.. Mitchell and Hatch BOTH miss the point.
    Soros' ideals are FAR from 'Far Left' in the academic sense. Hell, who knows if he really has any political ideal at all!
    To him the game's the thing! Who else can leverage a paltry 7 figures investment into a 9 figure return!

    Warren Buffet? Amateur!
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