Olympic Qualifying

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    One can only hope that the other teams in CONCACAF have the same issues in securing players for the qualification tournament.
     
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    I'm not sure I care about Olympic soccer. Who won the gold medal last time?
     
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    I remember Mexico winning in London, and that was a huge deal here. I understand for the Men it’s a U23 tourney. Maybe a reason for your apathy James is the fact the US hasn’t played in over a decade. It’s vital that the incoming players to stop the failures, it doesn’t compare to not qualifying for the WC, but this is a habit that must be broken.

    As far as the Women, it’s the full senior sides, and the 2nd most important tournament the ladies play. The US didn’t medal, and will be extremely motivated.
     
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    I expect the Costa Rica game to be tough.
     
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    1-0, massive 3 points!! Not the prettiest performance at times, but...^^

    Ochoa w/a couple fine saves, Ferreira could’ve had a hattrick, the heat took its toll, but the team hung tough.
     
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    Hoping for a better second half.
     
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    4 goals in final 30 minutes helped.
     
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    It did at that!
     
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    Mexico takes out Costa Rica and now its 90 minutes away from qualifying. They do have a game w/El Tri to determine who wins the group, but a draw will not do because of goals scored (7 to 5 in favor of Mexico). Jason Kreis has to be careful w/Ferreira who picked up a stupid yellow on a retaliation, the Dominicans spent the rest of the time trying to dive and or goad him into another one.

    The big issue so far? @HatterDon preaches this about the playing calendar, and because most all these guys are MLS players, and just like Concacaf Champions League, March games feature guys that aren’t close to peak match fitness and sharpness.

    The player that has stood out? Sam Vines has been the best player for me and has been absolutely terrific thus far.
     
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    Lost 1-0 to El Tri on a 45th minute catastrophic back pass in our own half by Soto (why he was that deep is a mystery). The best takeaway is Ferreira came on and didn’t get a yellow, so he’ll be eligible for Sunday.
     
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    Bounced back and forth until Resident Alien finished, then stayed from the last half-hour or so. I didn't see any "shot" that was lower than 30 feet off the ground, nor any cross that came within a yard of an American in the box.

    I did see a LOT of slow buildup -- 12 or so passes before we looked up field. If this is what we're going to see at the Olympics, I'm wondering why we're going in the first place.

    Looking forward to the full international friendly today this noon [South Texas time].
     
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    @HatterDon Give the youngsters another chance HD, let’s put that match in perspective. It was cagey on both sides because the match didn’t really matter because both squads were through to the semis and there isn’t a team El Tri and the US were trying to avoid. The US didn’t start their best player Jackson Yueill, their best player in the tourney Sam Vines, their best CB Justin Glad, and kept out Ferreira till late, and you could tell the last thing he was going to do was get himself in any situation where he could get a yellow that would hold him out for Sunday. What does a win over Honduras mean and how vital it is to the US going forward? It means that this group will experience success in the most pressure cooker of situations, and there is a handful of guys playing that will be on the senior team when we host in 2026. Throw in that Pulisic is on record that he wants to play in Tokyo, and surely there would be a couple more guys of this ‘Golden Generation’ that will want to go as well. This Sunday is flat out massive for the USMNT, a win would not only mean qualification for the Olympics, but also sets up a likely rematch w/El Tri with the tourney title on the line.
     
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    Starting 11

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    When I broke for a quick bite at half time, HatterMom asked me how the first 45 went. I told her that our attacking strategy was to bring the ball up slowly and then, once we had gotten into Honduras half, kick the ball into touch. After I had a bite or two, I told her that actually, it was like watching 11 fairly talented young men in the same color uniform who, evidently, had just met.

    Here's what I actually saw. When Honduras gained possession regardless of where on the pitch they were, they took off for our goal at full speed. What the US did, by contrast, was too ensure that everyone was in his preferred area, then pass the ball no more than two times before losing possession. Nobody asked me, but I think the kids were overcoached -- woefully overcoached.

    Our goal was a stunner, but it was totally out of context to the match, and we never came close to scoring again.

    The one good thing about losing today was that we don't have to listen to reporters/announcers saying that there were several European-based players who would still be young enough to play in Japan. This was NEVER going to happen. The Pulisics and Dests were asked if they'd like to be part of the Olympics [rather than start pre-season training and nailing down their positions in the first team squad]. They had a choice. They could have said, "No! We're trying to establish ourselves in top level leagues. Let the MLS taxi squad players go to Japan," but that wouldn't have endeared them to the folks back home. So they said, "Well, it's up to the club since the season will be starting at that time, but if it's okay with them ... ." We were NEVER going to see any of the quality players we saw in Austria and Northern Ireland in the Olympics.

    Here's a thing, though. It's obvious to me that the Olympics don't want quality professionals competing in Japan. They're probably pissed that they can't go back to all amateurs, and I don't blame them. If they WERE interested, they'd have league activity suspended for qualifying matches -- you know, like they do for REAL regional and world competitions.

    So, now we don't have to think about it for another three years. I, for one, am glad. And I'd kinda like to see Honduras win the whole shebang. They played very well today and, of course, if they win the gold, Mexico doesn't.
     
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    Can’t refute anything ^^^ 2 words for me:

    EPIC FAIL
     
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