MLB Season

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by VegasJustin, Mar 28, 2012.

  1. HatterDon

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    A couple ofpoints to clarify/make, Joe.
    1. There's no comparing the NFL with MLB. There's always been games crossing division and conference lines since the NFC and AFC were formed. The problem isn't rivalries -- under the idiotic interleague baseball method, Houston's "close rivals" include Kansas City and Cleveland. In order to play games against these guys, we lose games with REAL traditional rivals [when there was only NL West and NL East] like Atlanta, San Francisco, and the Dodgers. We may actually get more games against SF and LAD as members of the American League.

    2. MLB does NOT have an odd number of teams in each league the have two even numbers. This means that the idiotic interleague baseball could go away with no consequences. Under the 15 teams per league setup next season, there must be interleague play ALL YEAR LONG. Ignorant -- especially as interleague play undermines the "specialness" of the World Series. When the Yanks and Mets had their first "Subway Series," It was the 4th series between the clubs THAT season.

    3. The DH is unusual in that it is a stupid idea that was NOT created by Bud Selig. It is no great asset to the enjoyment of the game. It's like having a designated free-throw shooter in the NBA or a designated corner-taker in MLS. The game should be played by 9 offensive AND defensive players. I quite enjoy NL baseball with its sacrifice bunts and stealing. So, no; having a DH won't help.

    4. It took the Astros -- and the National League ONE SEASON to adjust to Minute Maid Park. Astros pitchers -- and others -- who made their living throwing fly balls learned to have them directed to the spacious centerfield area. Even with Houston's #1 starter really being a #3 and the rookies and second year pitchers who follow, the Astros pitchers have much lower ERAs at home than on the road. The STUPID dimensions for a ballpark is in Baltimore, where there is no challenging dimension. There's no place for a pitcher to induce a fly ball safely in that small park -- designed that was on purpose to "encourage scoring." As a result a franchise whose successes have been built on starting pitchers for over 50 years is now the home of 9-6 games and the Orioles suffer.

    5. The Orioles are my AL team and the Angels are my wife's AL team. Those two are the only American League clubs I'll root for in the series, although I think the decision to call them The Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim was callous in the least. As a matter of fact, if there's any owner LESS sensitive to the wishes of his fans than the new guy in Houston, it's the [relatively] new guy in Anaheim.

    Nice try, Joe. But starting next season, I have only one rooting interest in baseball -- The San Antonio Missions of the AA Texas League.
     
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  2. nevzter

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    The SF Giants pitching staff to the rest of the NL: "You'll get nothing and like it!!"

    4 straight shutouts.
     
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  3. VegasJustin

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    I love the Astros move as the Mariners won't be last every year. As a fan of the Mariners and AL baseball, I hate it when we play in NL parks as the pitchers suck at hitting and it takes away from the momentum a team builds. I like offense and home runs and I can't even really watch NL baseball. This is a preference thing though, but I like the way the AL is.
     
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  4. AggieMatt

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    1, they stole Mo's line. And 2, maybe they'd be a good a new favorite NL team for Don...except they aren't women.

    In MLB, every city or state with 2 teams has them split evenly between NL & AL except PA. I like that b/c most people do have a preference between the 2 leagues and that gives you the ability to root for your local/state team either way. Or if you like both leagues, you get a rooting interest in each league if you so desire. I know that doesn't fly with the teams that split cities (NY/Chi/LA) so much, but the option is there.

    Another gripe from a Houston perspective is that they'll now play all but one divisional game 2 time zones away. I realize the Rangers were already doing this. I also realize Houston had to play half of their games that way in the old NL configuration before the extra divisions were created, but I still don't like it.

    Of course, I don't like the Central Divisions anyway. Or wildcards. Or this asinine 1 game playoff addition. So baseball is well on it's way to becoming largely irrelevant to me as a fan anyway. The only thing that keeps it from becoming completely irrelevant to me is that I went to my first O's game when I was 4, back in the day when baseball was still the national past-time, and that's hard to completely let go of. Although Peter Angelos has done his level best to tempt me these last 15 or so years.
     
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  5. HatterDon

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    Yeah, well you like the Lakers also. So ... . :lol:
     
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  6. SoCalJoe

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    Don; agree w/a lot of what you said. Especially concerning the moronic scheduling. However, one item that I'll take issue with is your assessment of the Angels owner. Arte Moreno is universally beloved by Angels fans, and held in the same esteem as the late great Gene Autry. Won't go into it too much about him personally (that would be an essay), but trust me that you would genuinely like him. He's all about the fans, has increased revenue streams, and put back the money into the team on the field. Tell HatterMom her favorite team is in good hands.
     
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  7. dcheather

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    Ichiro is now a Yank. Boo.

    I've liked Ichiro throughout his time with the Mariners, I can't blame him for wanting out of there. Just wish Mariner fans would be able to see their star players retire with their team.
     
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  8. VegasJustin

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    There was a lot of Mariners fans that wanted him out. He has been really bad the last couple of seasons. It was time to move on.

    I think it's time to move on from Felix as well. We aren't going to compete this year and we could solve a few of our problems by trading him.
     
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  9. jumpkutz

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    He'll always be a Mariner to me. And Clemens will always be a Red Sock. And Albert will always be a Cardinal. And I hope Jeter knows it's time when the time comes so he'll always be a Yankee. And Pete will always be a Red.
     
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  10. VegasJustin

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    King Felix threw a perfect game today. It was one of the most tense moments I have ever experienced. I was so nervous going into the ninth, but in hindsight I shouldn't have been since he was so dominant today. I don't think there was any doubt he was going to do this after about the sixth inning. He is an amazing pitcher and deserves to pitch in the postseason.
     
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  11. dcheather

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    Amazing...well done to him and congrats to all the Mariner fans out there.
     
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  12. AggieMatt

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    Funny you said that Justin. I got a text from a friend of mine who was there about 4:05 (cst) saying King Felix was perfect through 6. I was giving him crap for jinxing it and he said, "no way, he's as dominant as I've ever seen a pitcher today." Several text updates and an hour or so later, the M's had their first perfecto.

    I used to have Safeco "record" bragging rights b/c I was there (and stayed til the end) of the longest game in M's history. Witnessing a perfect game trumps that, easily.
     
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  13. dcheather

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    Well, the site was down for the mega Red Sox/Dodgers deal.

    As a Red Sox fan I like the trade that gets rid of Beckett and Crawford. And it sheds a massive amount of salary money for the Sox, but can I trust the current management to put the pieces back together again? I'm not very confident right now.
     
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  14. jumpkutz

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    WWBD. (what would Bowie do?).
     
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  15. dcheather

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    Turn and face the strange?
     
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  16. dallasbill

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    Nicely done. :bow-yellow:
     
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  17. jimsig

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    Re: MB Season

    Yeah, what Heather said. I think John Henry needs to get rid of Larry Luchino. It is time for him to say to say, "Larry you have made me a ton of money but we need to move on." IMO he is to blame for the whole Terry Francona fiasco, I think he was behind it. I have also heard rumors that Larry could be next in line for the commisioners job after Selig retires. Hopefully sooner rather then later to get him out of Boston.
     
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  18. AggieMatt

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    The Sox look like they're going back to their 89 yr drought roots. I don't think it was a bad move if they reinvest that money well, plus they did a good job fleecing LA of prospects. LA should have been stingier given all of the bad contracts they absorbed. That said, Beckett could very well benefit and bounce back with the move out of Boston, into a different league, and into a pitcher's park. Gonzalez will be good for LA, Crawford is likely done.

    Heather, I wouldn't have much confidence, but how they handle this (and what they do with Valentine) will give you a good indicator of the direction of the Sox for the next decade.

    Meanwhile, the O's are still hanging around. Don't know how (aside from their record in 1 run games) but it's fun to see them relevant again after so long.
     
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  19. dcheather

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    The end of the season can not come soon enough for my Sox. I had them pegged for fourth, but they'll most likely end up in the cellar.
     
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  20. HatterDon

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    A sports oddity. Houston won only their second road series this season yesterday. What's odd about a crap team sucking so bad on the road? Simple. Both yesterday's series and the only one they won earlier were at the expense of teams sitting in first place this morning -- The Cincinnati Reds and the Chicago WhiteSox.
     
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