H'Wood Blacklist: 60th Anniversary

We're coming up on one of the darkest periods of American Culture.

The 'Ten' spoken of were blacklisted in Hollywood for a long time... certainly not a Stalinist tactic.. but close.

But what's often conveniently forgotten is that the charges were largely true. Certainly many or most affected directly or indirectly were blame-free in that all they did was follow the pack and attend Communist cell meetings or repeat some Marxist jargon... still the fact remains, later borne out by documents released by the Kremlin, that Stalin was indeed bankrolling Southern California party activities.

When I used to listen to NPR, I often heard Dalton Trumbo held up as a victim. Fact is a Commie is a commie and Commie-Symps are just that.
And they still are and Hollyweird is still a haven of Stalinist-Castroist Marxists admirers of Hugo Chavez.

The column I'm linking tells you the OTHER side you wont get on PBS or certainly Ted Turners commemoration of the anniversary. You see, Ted thinks, like Ed Asner, that Joseph 'Stalin was misunderstood'.

He wasnt misunderstood. Ronald Reaqan understood him; and if it werent for the REAL Communist influences of Hollywood and communist threats against him he might never have switched from a Democrat Labor Leader to the guy we know now.

That's a good thing. As to the 'Bad Things' ...the lesson I guess is to stick to what you know, you artists. And dont follow the in-crowd.

Biased Hollywood Ten Tales

Kindly note that the author of this piece advises his readers to actually WATCH the Turner propaganda piece and make up their own minds. Something that admirers of the left are loath to do when THEY disagree; they would be calling for a boycott.

This points out why the blacklist and over-reaction to the 'Marxist Influence' was bad. The best reaction is to shine a light and ridicule. We know that now and that is how things are largely done.

Bear that in mind when the Dems try to reinstate the 'Fairness Doctrine' in FFC licensed broadcasting.

 

Thanks PFog. Interesting post/article. The issue of painting US mistakes in such a black and white way has been one of my pet-peeves. While I appreciate the fact that US citizens are taught and remember our national mistakes, I think it is not done enough in the context, history, and realities of the times. Our mistakes are looked at more as a blip in time and as perpetrated by men with draconian, prejudice ideals. We scoff and think that we today are so enlightened and have such superior values. It is arrogant really. When this is done our mistakes are not fully understood and this increases the chance that they will be made again. Who are some of the people who made these mistakes - John Adams (the Alien and Sedition Acts) and Franklin Roosevelt (the Japenese Internment camps). Who of us is superior to these two men?

We are taught about the stain on our history that is the Japanese internment camps. Good, Americans need to know about these camps. But how many Americans know about the Rape of Nanking, the Bataan Death March, Japanese Military schools, Japan's treatment of women, etc. Understanding the fear and concerns that were the context of our mistakes is how you truly understand them and prevent their repeat. But whenever someone tries to do that it is painted as trying to justify the mistake.

Turner and Hollyweird think they are morally superior and just plain superior to the rest of us and that is why they do this stuff. As artists, the Hollyweirdos think it is their place to show the rest of us the moral way. Kind of like the fundamentalist christians they are so eager to criticize.

 

No...Don, I'd rather make FUN of you for your knee jerk lefty response.
As if I WERENT fair and balanced on it.


You cant thiink of ten Chavez lickers in Hollywood, dont make me laugh.



heh... like I said.

 

{Note. I found this out just after Don called me on it. I somehow didnt get it posted and luckily didnt have to type it again because I let the laptop hibernate instead of shutting it down.}

WTH!!!

Maybe THIS is why I dont have WorldNetDaily on my bookmarks..

Ed Asner: 'Hannity's next ... just like we went after Limbaugh'

What a load of crap.. he remembers it TOTALLY wrong, THEN takes the word of someone ELSE telling him what's on the tape?

Asshole... wonder what he thinks of the Scott Beauchamp story! Hmmm.. shows why nobody ever heard of 'Kevin McCullough'.

Mea Culpa!

 

That really is a perfect example of a horrendous misquote.

 

Totally agree with you Cleveland. When people were getting blacklisted in Hollywood and elsewhere, Chairman Mao was beginning to murder millions of Chinese. The irony is that the Red Scare of the 50's doesn't just show an American failure, but also how wonderful America is... because that is about as bad as it gets.

 

Look... that misquote REALLY upset me because it comes up as anecdote to this day. I aint the only one who used it... and more than 10 people hear it used.

Asners politics are no secret, I probably disagree with him on about everything but that sort of thing is really harmful... not just to him, but to guys like me.
Another bothersome thing is that there's only one blog {that showed on the blog search} that linked the 'correction': InstaPundit and that is my 'starting blog' ...now, and has been over a year. Wasnt then.

But golly.... I guess it sort of fits in after all. The point of the thread is that those investigated WERENT ALL JUST reading the Daily Worker and supporting socialist issues. They WERE acting as agents to and extent. But some of them were and some only went to cell meetings one or two times as curiosity seekers.


You know what... everyone REALLY should think about how things might have been different if we had the Internet back then. This 'misquote' is exactly the same sort of thing as the Senate Letter about Limbaugh's 'Phony Soldiers' comment.
Some of those Senators who signed probably thought he really meant actual soldiers who are against it. Those of us who have listened to him knew they were in trouble immediately... but others could have simply sampled the comments on the 'right side' of the net and figured out the truth.
If we had the net THEN, some of those caught up but harmless might not have been under the same injustice.

Accuracy is important. You go from the TRUTH in political talking points, but starting from misconception or outright falsehood renders an argument pointless. Even if it's only cited as an 'example'.

 

And you imply >>> I << am obtuse!

I wish I COULD eat Krispy Kremes!

 

Exactly like the Phony Soldiers comment. Media Matters takes the quote out of context, it gets to the msm and before anyone bother to listen to the whole conversation, the whole context, everyone and their uncle's dog is piling on Limbaugh again. On the flip side the whole Sheryl Crow one square of toilet paper proposal. It was a JOKE! Yet a lot of people, railed on her pretty hard as if it were serious proposal. I'm sure quite a few conservative talk radio listeners still have a low opinion of her because of that incident.

 

Is there a 'new blacklist'?

Is there a 'new blacklist'?...

Not really. But probably, sorta...

by Roger L Simon, author, screenwriter

* Works in politics... why not in the cinema?

You know, people are just as smart as those in influence expect them to be.... or allow them to be.

If you offer them enough crotch and adrenaline oriented diversion, they wont have time to think.. see my sig.

 

Well, I'm glad you concur with Simon.. and me.. at the end of it.

He, you, and I are right, of course. I blame 'The Matrix'.
The writer's strike will provide more -and less- of an insight as to what goes on in the 'Mo'om pitchur' bizniz.
And like all union actions might show that it's less about the writing than the substance.

TV scriptwriters of course being an exception.
I really dont understand why they're in the same union. The whole concept is different. In TV, timing and word arrangement is EVERYTHING.

BTW: It's a BLOG, Don! Of course it's self promoting.

And just shut up about ellipses. I been snarked by better writers than you ... good as you are, for a amatchur....and I aint giving 'em up!

So there! :banana: