.... MORE, Please! ummmm.. okay, I'll admit it. I did a long time ago..like Taft, Sr who helped write the great society welfare clauses on 'no male head of household' for welfare. 'maybe the last thing Rockefeller Republicans got right. In fact SOME claiming to be conservative still ARE! like Buchanan and Paul. OTOH, let's look at people like the Kennedy's.. umkeh? oh, yeah! In fact some of the establishment GOP still does.