Fulham v. Bolton

Discussion in 'Fulham FC News and Notes' started by nevzter, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. HatterDon

    HatterDon Moderator

    Mar 18, 2006
    Peoples Republic of South Texas
    and here's today's lineup/squads:

    22 Jussi Jaaskelainen (G) ......... (G) Antti Niemi 29
    28 Lubomir Michalik (D) ............ (D) Leon Andreasen 26
    24 Joey O'Brien (D)................... (D) Chris Baird 34
    31 Andrew O'Brien (D) ...............(D) Brede Hangeland 32
    15 Gretar Rafn Steinsson (D) ......(D) Aaron Hughes 18
    11 Ricardo Gardner (M).............. (D) Paul Konchesky 4
    17 Danny Guthrie (M) .................(D) Moritz Volz 2
    19 Gavin McCann (M) ................(M) Jimmy Bullard 21
    4 Kevin Nolan (M)..................... (M) Simon Davies 25
    32 Matthew Taylor (M) ...............(M) Clint Dempsey 23
    14 Kevin Davies (S) ..................(M) Danny Murphy 27
    26 Ali Al Habsi (G) ................... (G) Tony Warner 12
    3 Jlloyd Samuel (D) ................. (D) Carlos Bocanegra 3
    25 Tamir Cohen (M) ................. (D) Philippe Christanval 5
    16 Andranik Teymourian (M) ..... (S) Hameur Bouazza 24
    9 Heidar Helguson (S) ............... (S) David Healy 9

    ahh, the legendary 6-4-0 formation with 3 fullbacks.

    Nice to see Christanval and Bouazza on the bench. And in case there's not enough offsides whistles, HH makes it back for Bolton

  2. Fulhamerica1423

    Fulhamerica1423 New Member

    Jan 27, 2008
    Augusta GA
    I'm guessing Duece is up front alone again?
  3. SoCalJoe

    SoCalJoe Well-Known Member

    Sep 5, 2006
    Walnut, CA
    In a word...UGLY. However, even though Sunderland got a W, they have to go to Anfield this weekend. Wigan and Birmingham City lost so we now sit 4 points behind, a tiny step forward today, obviously Roy played for the point.
  4. HatterDon

    HatterDon Moderator

    Mar 18, 2006
    Peoples Republic of South Texas
    well, Joe, you and ChiTom can put lipstick on that pig ... but I can't. We royally sucked today in all facets of the game and it started at the top. Bolton were without their entire strike force, had two new guys starting, and committed only one man up front. We probed a bit in the first half and, from the whistle that started the 2nd half, we were determined to go for nil-nil. Were it not for some shocking finishing, we'd have lost 3-0.

    What really pissed me off though [and I'm not calm yet], wasn't so much that we left Dempsey alone up front [it was a 6-4-0 formation, folks], but that we had a winger and a striker on the bench and never put the striker on for a minute. Despite the fact that Murphy's main job in the second half was to slow down our counterattacks and give away possession, the first two subs were Christanval for Volz and Bocanegra for Andreassen. Christanval STOOD in midfield, but didn't play anywhere, and Boca took over for PK so he could run up front away from the ball somewhere. We didn't bring on Bouazza until th 83rd or 84th minute when Jimmy the Bull was knackered, and he played as if his instructions were to keep the 0-0 intact.

    Guys and gals, I thought the negative football, long ball tactics were over. We still have too much Murphy, too much hit and hope, and nobody to help out Deuce with the attack.

    If we keep playing like that -- regardless of the results -- we'll be kidding ourselves if we think we belong in the Prem.

    Man, that was ugly.
  5. SamStej

    SamStej New Member

    Jan 14, 2008
    Palatine IL
    In my mind we were relatively lucky to get a point out of the match. Niemi did play very well though, repeatedly denying Bolton what would have been a winner. First half was decent for us but once again in the second half we came out flat and got dominated.
  6. dirtyboy

    dirtyboy New Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    Portland, OR
    And that sucks. I really didn’t like the two defensive substitutions. Why pack it in so early? At the 60 minute mark it was obvious that we needed some help up front. Why not put in some fresh legs upfront and give it a go? I was also really disappointed by the fact that there was no play on the wings at all. They tried to dribble straight up the goal too much. At this point we cannot be happy with draws.
  7. timmyg

    timmyg Well-Known Member

    Nov 20, 2006
    Agreed. But ya know what...I'll take that point.

    After about the 35th minute you could sense Hodgson said "screw it, we're not going to over-stretch ourselves," and packed it in for the remainder of the game.

    Its frustrating we didnt get three, but those are two vital points dropped by Bolton.

    EDIT - Guys, if you watched that match it was evident we WERENT going to score. Even though he was left to his lonesome, Demp botched a several attempts and had no pace. Call me crazy, but he needs some time on the pine to improve his psyche.

    And yes its odd we didnt use Healy at all and Booze until the 80th. But ya know what? Healy sucks and never does anything, and Booze just recovered from injuries.

    Again, a frustrating day but its better than zero points.

    Bring on the Villa.
  8. FFC24

    FFC24 New Member

    Jan 6, 2005
    The only positive I can take from this game was the fact that Hangeland looks like he will shore up our defense with his height. Other than that it was the same old shit from us and if we keep playing this way we will go down. I actually think we are already down. We are total shit attacking. Now you know why I want an attacking player. Because we freaking suck. Everytime we got the ball in a 3 v 5 position or something we slowed it down. Like WTF? If Dempsey had anybody in support we could of scored a couple of goals. It seems as though alot of people are blaming Dempsey, but when you play up front by yourself every freaking week you will lose confidence. Esepcially when you totally make a defender look like a fool a couple of times and notice that you have nobody to give the ball to. He belongs on the damn wing. How many games do our countless managers need to see to know this? I am sick and tired of watching this crap. I am sick and freaking tired of getting my hopes up only for them to be dashed because of boring shit football.

    Sorry for shit being thrown in there a couple of times, but it took all my might to not use harsher words.
  9. Lyle

    Lyle New Member

    Jan 21, 2007

    Roy can only employ aggressive tactics if he has players that can actually peform their given roles. Healy is not a Premiership quality striker. It is a waste to have him out there. So in reality Fulham has one option at forward and that's Dempsey... unless you let Bouazza have a go who's played up front once all season. You also want to build up Bullard and integrate Andreasen into the side. You don't have much time to do this and you have to wait for EJ and Nevland to get in to the squad. And you want to sort out the back by adding Hangeland in there. Why f his confidence up his first game?

    Fulham simply doesn't have any competent strikers. Kamara can't do it. Healy doesn't have the athleticism to cut it in the Prem League at all. Dempsey is not a forward, a striker, nor a pure finisher. So Fulham simply can't run out aggressive tactics and automatically bank on getting some goals.

    We all know, including Roy, that you have to play to win all the remaining games... but you have got to have the right tools to play that kind of game. No matter what Roy did this game Fulham was going to be hopeless up front. There wasn't a tactic that would rectify the fact that Fulham is without any offensive threat whatsoever.

    Until EJ, Nevland, and maybe a mystery third striker comes in... Fulham will produce nothing up front. Goals might would come by set pieces or fluke situations.
  10. SoCalJoe

    SoCalJoe Well-Known Member

    Sep 5, 2006
    Walnut, CA
    I hear you Don, and I feel your pain. Look at the bright side, its not every day you can use a great expression like 'lipstick on a pig'. :D
  11. andypalmer

    andypalmer Active Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Baltimore, MD
    If we'd have had EJ, we woulda had a chance for 3 points today - Bolton were very open to a pacey player breaking their off-side trap.

    Still, I was pleased with how the defense played and were held good possession at points. I thought our two new buys played very well - exactly what we needed.

    I actually look forward to our next game - we've stopped the boat from sinking - now its time to start bailing the water out!
  12. Meggrs

    Meggrs New Member

    Nov 28, 2005
    San Francisco
    Dear Roy H.,

    Thank you for buying strikers. Use them at the EARLIEST possible nanosecond, fortheloveofgod.

    I don't mind playing for the point at the end of a tough game. But playing for the point from minute one?!? Enough of Dempsey up front alone, please oh please oh please. Worse was Dempsey alone and NO wingers. Why even play a guy up front at all, then? Jeez, just call it a 5-5 and play in our half of the field.

    Okay. I'm trying to calm down. But that kind of game sucks to watch, for multiple reasons. I'm going to attempt to console myself with the thought that 2 new strikers will equal an actual attempt to score goals.

    I am not currently an EJ fan, but if he can come on and make a difference, I will shut up about him.

    Of course, I've been saying that about his Nats performances for about a year and a half now, and he's not given me any reason to quit yet.

    Still, a point's a point, and if this was a "transitional" game designed to integrate the newer defensive players before we bring on the guns, then so be it.
  13. nmancini04

    nmancini04 New Member

    May 21, 2007
    I rarely go on rants on this site, but I had one all prepared to go, but now I've read most of what I wanted to say in others' rants. I HATE the way Fulham played today. It's one thing to try to play for a draw against Arsenal, but against Bolton??? Fulham were FIVE POINTS into the drop zone headed into this match. They need WINS. I'd rather they lose the match trying to win than pick up a practically meaningless point in a six-pointer.

    As far as I am concerned, they lost this game. I can't believe I waited all day to watch this garbage.

    Sorry, I know I'm usually Mr. Optimism, but I'm officially depressed now.
  14. krhimself

    krhimself New Member

    Aug 11, 2005
    Orlando, via Japan
    No way we were going to win this match playing a 4-6-0 formation. Perhaps we weren't going for a win; RH may not admit to it, but that all seems obvious now.

    In a time when practically every match has become a "must win game," we're putting a line-up that features no strikers on the pitch. These are strange times indeed...
  15. HatterDon

    HatterDon Moderator

    Mar 18, 2006
    Peoples Republic of South Texas
    well, there is that, SCJ.

    Ya gave me a chuckle, pard. Have a dancin' banana on the old guy! :banana:
  16. jmh

    jmh New Member

    Jul 2, 2006
    Brooklyn, NY
    Do goalkeepers not wear #1 in Finland?

    Niemi looked willing to come off his line, but his punches weren't as strong as they should've been. But I guess it's tough to complain about a clean sheet.

    Baird didn't look like a liability for a change. He's no good going forward, but at least he didn't get repeatedly exposed like he has in other matches.

    Hughes was good enough.

    Hangeland showed why people were excited about him. He's dominant in the air. Occasionally tried to be too fancy while clearing, but Bolton put considerable effort into keeping high balls away from him.

    Konchesky was so-so. Bolton's wide players got a little bit the better of him, but he made a couple of really nice recoveries.

    Andreasen was not overly impressive and took some bad fouls. I'm surprised he didn't get booked. A different ref and he could've seen two yellows.

    Volzy looked energetic but I think he's going to struggle to find a role. I'm afraid he's not good enough going forward to be a wing midfielder like he's been used, and not quite solid enough on defense to be the regular right back. Thinking about it, he might be worth a run out in the defensive midfield role after (in my opinion, anyway) a not-great debut by Andreasen.

    As was pointed out, Murphy slowed EVERYTHING down and that was not what was needed. Reasonably composed on the ball in the face of Bolton's pressure.

    Bullard was alright. I'm really not sure what to expect so I'm not really sure how to evaluate him.

    Davies still looks uncomfortable on the left. While the style of play should be the same, he doesn't seem to know what to do as much on that side.

    Dempsey looked tired. He needs a rest.

    Christanval (understandably) looked rusty.

    Bocanegra didn't really do enough to make an impression on me one way or the other. Neither did Bouazza, but getting him back should help to address our GLARING GLARING GLARING lack of pace.

    Overall... without looking at things in context, a point on the road is generally a good result. Unfortunately, as we've been saying, we've played ourselves into a position where we need three points, not one, and not just at home either.
  17. Clevelandmo

    Clevelandmo Active Member

    Sep 13, 2007
    I can understand what Roy was doing but it is still very disappointing. What fan wants to watch a game in which all you do is play defense. Yeah, Hangeland looked good but he had 5 other defenders and most of the midfield helping him. What's the point of the big guy then? Can he do the job with four in the back or not?

    Like Lyle said we had no strikers out there and we were not going to score. It seemed clear that was the case as I watched the game as it has for weeks and weeks.

    There was a time when this very same team (without Hangeland, Andreasen, McBride) could score goals. All I can believe is that the clean sheet and not conceding 2nd half goals has become so important that it has overriden the abiltiy of this team to score and create any offensive threat.

    At least when we were dropping points in the second half, I could enjoy half a match a week! The entire game is punishing now.

    Roy, get something happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ughhhhhh
  18. LaxAttack

    LaxAttack Well-Known Member

    Jan 27, 2007
    Basically a lot of my thoughts have already been said over and over by others.

    Today's game was painful to watch.
  19. americanmike

    americanmike Administrator

    Dec 30, 2004
    Well I made long trip up to Bolton last night (only got back at 3am this morning!) A very good trip and met a lot of fans who’s faces I recognized but never got the chance to have a conversation with. Funny how the Fulham fans who traveled last night all banded together due to the fact that you had to be slightly messed up in the head to travel all that way on a weeknight!

    I thought the team put on a very encouraging display last night. They passed the ball well, albeit the pace was slow and both our new signings looked very, very good. Hangeland even got a song last night and acknowledged it several times. He is a player we needed for a long, long time.

    Once we found out Dempsey was upfront on his own, I knew it was going to be a draw but what could you expect Hodgson to do? We have no strikers and Healy would’ve been worse off in a lone striker position, add the injuries we have to some of our midfielders and, well, you have the reason why 6 defenders on the field. I wasn’t happy with that in the slightest because there was an opportunity to win the game, unfortunately some of our transfers were/are a week too late.

    If it’s any consolation, we are playing passing football again, pulled a point up on Wigan and we are still VERY active in the transfer market.

  20. BarryP

    BarryP New Member

    Jul 20, 2007
    Evansville, Indiana
    Most of my thoughts about the Bolton game have already been stated. The only thing I can add is it appears almost certain now that David Healy has no future in Hodgson's squad. If he didn't play him yesterday against Bolton I doubt we will see him on the bench once the new strikers have joined the squad.
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