Euros..2020 in ‘21

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  1. HatterDon

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    If you enjoy a good 0-0 match, today's England/Scotland match was one for you -- unless you were an English supporter. England had a better squad and, 8 or 9 of the best starters, but Scotland had a PLAN and the executed it well. I loved pretty much all of it. The personal highlight for me was when his long-suffering "color" announcer had enough of Ian Darke and called him out on a typical non-match related bit of drivel -- twice on the same drivel.

    If the Scots play like this in their next match, they'll likely get to the next round.
     
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    @HatterDon Just wished the Scots pressed for the winner instead of settling for a point. 3 Lions fans have to be asking a simple question...WTF?
     
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    The Brits have never realized that just because their domestic league is the best on the planet, doesn't meant they have a competitive internaitonal side. With the exception of Tottenham [for the moment] and Aston Villa, the best player for each side in the Premier League is NOT English.
     
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    For a large part of the match I kept expecting Scotland to convert one of their chances and walk away with the win.
     
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    The real German team showed up today!

    The fans in Budapest cheering on Hungary 1-1 draw w/France we’re amazing today, and the Hungarian team spilled their guts for that point!
     
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    It’s been mostly fun to watch. Some very good underdog performances as noted by previous posters. The Hungarians were warriors against the French, and could very easily have gotten a “W” out of that match. They definitely outhustled them and deserved their result in front of their home crowd. Italy have been the most impressive side in the group stage, the English the most disappointing. I agree that Scotland should have been more adventurous against their rivals. They were ripe for picking. The Scots and a lot of
    people, myself included, were surprised by the Czechs. Maybe we shouldn’t have been, but losing to them hurt Scotland a lot. Gonna be interesting to follow!
     
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    Absolutely LOVED the Wales v. Italy match. Wales were seriously outgunned, but they were focused and unshakeable. Glad they're going through to the second round.

    Also, I really liked the commentary. I don't particularly like Taylor Twellman when he's covering USMNT, but he did a hell of a job today as well. Looking forward to the rest of the tourney.
     
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    I agree Don. If the Welsh keep putting in shifts like that and can shake Bale loose for a few more decent chances, they could be this year’s Portugal.
    Bale has issues for sure, but his offensive talent, while inconsistent, can be spectacular. He’s streaky, and if he gets on a roll, he’s capable of carrying a team on his back. He can suck for 89:30 and then BAM! he’s beaten you.
     
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    What a time to be an old retired fart!!!!

    Just got finished watching Denmark v. Russia -- crazy match but highly entertaining for a neutral. Good stuff out there.
     
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    The Danes are going to be a tough out. Reminded of when the late great Hank Gathers collapsed for Loyola Marymount right before March Madness (thankfully Eriksen was able to be saved in this situation). Loyola’s players galvanized and every single player lifted their game/capabilities and they got to the Elite 8 before eventual champion UNLV beat them.

    Crotia eliminates Scotland. Prime example of why when you have a chance to beat a superior team like the Scots did against England, you go for it instead of being happy with a point. Speaking of England, they won the group, but have to imagine the press is crushing Southgate, his tactics, and the performances.
     
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    Get a kick out of North Macedonia being tagged as MKD -- my first reaction: Milton Keynes Dons?
     
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    I’m getting my first lengthy look at the Dutch today, and was not only stunned to see Maarten Stekelenberg between the sticks for them, but also learning he has started all of their Euro matches.
    Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.
     
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    That was the worst display by a Netherland's side in maybe two decades. Cheap shots and lack of creativity ... .

    On the other hand, the first half of the Belgium v. Portugal match was seriously cherce. The second half sucked pretty bad, but for a couple of very nice saves. Portugal's reign may be over, but I'll be surprised if we'll see Belgium #1 in Europe a year from now.
     
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    Today was an absolute joy for a neutral. First we had Croatia fighting tooth and nail with Spain, and then Switzerland scrambling back from the grave against France. BOTH matches involved very late equalizers and multiple chances in extra time. And one only finished with penalties.

    The only sad thing is that Spain and Switzerland have players suspended for the next round, and they are both physically and mentally exhausted.
     
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    It's a little scary that Spain have suddenly found their shooting boots, scoring ten goals in their past two matches. The way they can control possession, even eleven years down the road from 2010, is still very, very good. If they can keep up finishing like this, whoa. Tha' Anglish finally got the German monkey off their backs today at Wembley. The current German golden era may well be over. The Mullers, Krooses, Schweinsteigers, Kloses, Lahms, Boatengs and Hummels aren't walking through that door, or, in the case of Muller and Kroos, not for much longer. And the so-called most recent Three Lions golden era of Lampard, Gerrard, Rooney, Beckham, Cole and Hart are being overshadowed by this group of relatively less heralded players. Collectively, they are arguably less talented than the previous core, yet they've begun more successfully than the group of superstars. I don't like his injury embellishments at all, but Grealish makes them so much better. His cross to Kane for the second was almost perfect. And what a bounceback from a subpar club season by Sterling. Citeh would be stupid to get rid of him. The biggest thing, though, is they're much more solid defensively than their elders were. No standouts, just excellent, hard working, team defending. It'll be interesting to see if they can keep it going against either Sweden or Ukraine in Rome. They should be favored, and if they can continue performing like they did today, or even better, they've got a decent chance to win the whole darn thing. After the next round, the semi-finals and finals are at Wembley.
     
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    Everything on a plate for England. Easy group, easy side of the draw, worst German team in awhile, Ukraine upsetting a solid Sweden team (3 Lions would’ve beaten them too to be fair), and now potentially 2 home matches from winning their first major trophy in 55 years.

    Denmark’s run has been remarkable, but it’s time for it to end v England. Italy (the best team in the tourney thus far) v Spain in the other Semi should be fantastic to watch.
     
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    it's amazing what can happen when you (a) put Jadon Sancho on the bench and (b) let him play his match

    kinda wondering if England will be able to keep the trophy if they win it. After all, they ARE no longer part of Europe.
     
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    Italy vs. Spain on Tuesday and England vs. Denmark on Wednesday. I'll predict the Azzurri over La Roja and the Three Lions to end Denmark's unlikely run. This is usually where England get severe squeaky bums and blow it, but I think the new guard is just that...new. They don't play that. But it's not in the bag. All four are pretty darn even.
     
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    Watched 90 minutes plus of the South European Platform Diving competition. I did enjoy some things. I saw a guy running around with the name on his back I got when I played -- "Immobile" And I ALWAYS enjoy watching Chiellini play. If there's a professional who loves the game more than him, I'd love to meet him.

    Missed most of the extra time and all of the penalties -- I try not to miss Jeopardy for anything.

    I will be watching tomorrow. I'm hoping to see a little bit of attacking and a lot less of ... you know ... immobility. If England's coaching staff allow their young players to express themselves, they should do very well. The problem is that every England manager in the last 40 years is afraid to do ANYTHING but one step sideways and then pass back. They know if they go for it and fail, they'll be fired, and if they go for it and succeed, they'll be fired as soon as they lose their next match.
     
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