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SoCalJoe · Jun 10, 2013

Interesting matches tomorrow:

Mexico v Costa Rica Mexico is struggling scoring, not sure if it will get much better v the Ticos

Honduras v Jamaica A draw is not enough for either side, so would expect a wide open match, but one Honduras must feel is a must win.

dcheather · Jun 10, 2013

SoCalJoe said:

Interesting matches tomorrow:

Mexico v Costa Rica Mexico is struggling scoring, not sure if it will get much better v the Ticos

Honduras v Jamaica A draw is not enough for either side, so would expect a wide open match, but one Honduras must feel is a must win.
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As whiney as the Ticks were about the snow game, I am almost unsure of my rooting interest in this one. Usually it would be very clear cut.

dcheather · Jun 10, 2013

DCHeather said:

SoCalJoe said:

Interesting matches tomorrow:

Mexico v Costa Rica Mexico is struggling scoring, not sure if it will get much better v the Ticos

Honduras v Jamaica A draw is not enough for either side, so would expect a wide open match, but one Honduras must feel is a must win.
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As whiney as the Ticks were about the snow game, I am almost unsure of my rooting interest in this one. Usually it would be very clear cut.
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Darn auto-correct. That should have been Ticos.

Clevelandmo · Jun 11, 2013

I understood your point. Your point just fails to recognize that Klinsman made a change because of how poorly Cameron has been playing and you fail to acknowledge that Evans was tested against a tough opponent prior to the qualifier. If players are playing poorly they should be removed from the starting lineup regardless of what league they ply their trade in.
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I just disagree with everyone who says Cameron had played poorly. Belgium is a tough opponent, pretty much had their A team, and it was Gonzalez and Goodsen that I remember as having the defensive miscues, but being there live I didnt have the benefit of numerous replays. Cameron played RB in the Costa Rica match and in the draw at Azteca. Were they standout performances, maybe not, but no miscues of the sort that warrant being displaced by Evans.

The problem is that Evans is a starter it's just that he starts in another position. Your statement makes it sound like they were in a head to head competition and Evans lost out which is untrue. Thus it sounds like a cheap shot at Evans talent.
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Fair point. btw here is more from Sigi from a Soccer By Ives article. Unbelieveable the number of positions he has played Brad.

Evans’ success at the right back position didn’t come as much of a surprise to Sounders head coach Sigi Schmid, who broached the subject of Evans being a potential right back option with U.S. head coach Jurgen Klinsmann last year. Schmid has seen Evans ability to adapt to new positions all the way back to his days as U.S. Under-20 head coach.

“He’s just one of the players that whatever position you put him in he just, tactically, plays the position pretty much the way it should be played,” Schmid said of Evans. “The only other player I had like that a little bit was Sasha Victorine.

“I’ve played Brad at center forward. I’ve played him at centerback, right midfield, left midfield, center midfield, outside back,” Schmid said. “Whatever position you put him in, he has a pretty good tactical understanding of what needs to happen there. He’s good in a lot of areas.

“What’s hurt him at times is he’s probably not great in any one thing in particular, but he’s so solid in everything else. He’s going to fight and his ability to run and cover ground is also outstanding.”
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BarryWhite · Jun 11, 2013

Clevelandmo said:

I understood your point. Your point just fails to recognize that Klinsman made a change because of how poorly Cameron has been playing and you fail to acknowledge that Evans was tested against a tough opponent prior to the qualifier. If players are playing poorly they should be removed from the starting lineup regardless of what league they ply their trade in.
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I just disagree with everyone who says Cameron had played poorly. Belgium is a tough opponent, pretty much had their A team, and it was Gonzalez and Goodsen that I remember as having the defensive miscues, but being there live I didnt have the benefit of numerous replays. Cameron played RB in the Costa Rica match and in the draw at Azteca. Were they standout performances, maybe not, but no miscues of the sort that warrant being displaced by Evans.

The problem is that Evans is a starter it's just that he starts in another position. Your statement makes it sound like they were in a head to head competition and Evans lost out which is untrue. Thus it sounds like a cheap shot at Evans talent.
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Fair point. btw here is more from Sigi from a Soccer By Ives article. Unbelieveable the number of positions he has played Brad.

Evans’ success at the right back position didn’t come as much of a surprise to Sounders head coach Sigi Schmid, who broached the subject of Evans being a potential right back option with U.S. head coach Jurgen Klinsmann last year. Schmid has seen Evans ability to adapt to new positions all the way back to his days as U.S. Under-20 head coach.

“He’s just one of the players that whatever position you put him in he just, tactically, plays the position pretty much the way it should be played,” Schmid said of Evans. “The only other player I had like that a little bit was Sasha Victorine.

“I’ve played Brad at center forward. I’ve played him at centerback, right midfield, left midfield, center midfield, outside back,” Schmid said. “Whatever position you put him in, he has a pretty good tactical understanding of what needs to happen there. He’s good in a lot of areas.

“What’s hurt him at times is he’s probably not great in any one thing in particular, but he’s so solid in everything else. He’s going to fight and his ability to run and cover ground is also outstanding.”
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Fair enough if you saw Cameron as an adequate RB but I do not particularly when played next to Omar. Far too many combined mistakes by the pairing. I won't make excuses for Omar but Cameron is no help with his own mistakes and tendency to fall asleep when he should be covering. Just my opinion though.

Clevelandmo · Jun 12, 2013

What is up with Mexico and why do I care? They just arent the villains they used to be. I find myself frustrated that Chicharito cant score.

SoCalJoe · Jun 12, 2013

El Tri is a MESS!!! They had most of the possession, but Costa Rica was the team mostly likely to score. At ManUre, Chicharito is not the #1 option, so he is much freer to do what he does best which is make runs and put himself in ideal poaching positions. Every CONCACAF Defense is geared to stopping him, but they keep trying to force feed him the ball. 3 home Hex matches that finish 0-0???? Ouch

Honduras with a comfortable win over Jamaica, and it should be a lively affair in Salt Lake City

Costa Rica hosts Panama on Tues. also. Panama desperately needs a result.

:lol: Mo, I have the same trouble in other sports. The world is a better place when the Cowboys are good and I can hate them, they are a joke now and I find myself pitying them. I imagine you'll be able to go back to hating the villains in the fall.

HatterDon · Jun 12, 2013

Caught the end of this match, and the announcers were saying that if El Tri stumbles in their first Confederations Cup match, look for their manager to get fired.

Frankly, I can't figure out why he's still got the gig now. Mexico is notoriously quick on the trigger.

I ain't crying either.

dcheather · Jun 12, 2013

HatterDon said:

Caught the end of this match, and the announcers were saying that if El Tri stumbles in their first Confederations Cup match, look for their manager to get fired.

Frankly, I can't figure out why he's still got the gig now. Mexico is notoriously quick on the trigger.

I ain't crying either.
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Me neither on both fronts. But could any of us have predicted this is where Mexico would be now around this time last year? They looked like they could beat just about anyone on a given day to not being able to score a goal at the Azteca in 250 minutes (if I heard that stat correctly last night on ESPN)?

HatterDon · Jun 14, 2013

Did I miss the news about CONCACAF fining Mexico and mandating that the next two home WC qualifiers have to be played in an empty stadium? I was certain that this would be a result of the constant rain of garbage thrown at Costa Rican players. Isn't this what happens in UEFA?

I'm certain I must have missed it. Hmmmmm.

SoCalJoe · Jun 14, 2013

HatterDon said:

Did I miss the news about CONCACAF fining Mexico and mandating that the next two home WC qualifiers have to be played in an empty stadium? I was certain that this would be a result of the constant rain of garbage thrown at Costa Rican players. Isn't this what happens in UEFA?

I'm certain I must have missed it. Hmmmmm.
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HD, there was a statement released by CONCACAF, I couldn't find the link, so let me paraphrase: There will be no penalty issued for the following reasons:

• The apple thrown was whole thus it could have been thrown by a Costa Rican fan thinking Ruiz needed a snack.
• Water bottles....ditto
• Urine bags have been okayed due to the health benefits for human skin have been proven.
• The sharpies thrown could be construed as an attempt by a Costa RIcan fan to get Ruiz to give an autograph.

jimsig · Jun 14, 2013

SoCalJoe said:

HatterDon said:

Did I miss the news about CONCACAF fining Mexico and mandating that the next two home WC qualifiers have to be played in an empty stadium? I was certain that this would be a result of the constant rain of garbage thrown at Costa Rican players. Isn't this what happens in UEFA?

I'm certain I must have missed it. Hmmmmm.
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HD, there was a statement released by CONCACAF, I couldn't find the link, so let me paraphrase: There will be no penalty issued for the following reasons:

• The apple thrown was whole thus it could have been thrown by a Costa Rican fan thinking Ruiz needed a snack.
• Water bottles....ditto
• Urine bags have been okayed due to the health benefits for human skin have been proven.
• The sharpies thrown could be construed as an attempt by a Costa RIcan fan to get Ruiz to give an autograph.
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:laughing-rolling:

HatterDon · Jun 14, 2013

I never thought I'd say this in a million years, but I'm really sorry that Jones isn't going to be in the squad against Honduras.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer ... nduras.ap/?

jumpkutz · Jun 15, 2013

jimsig said:

SoCalJoe said:

HatterDon said:

Did I miss the news about CONCACAF fining Mexico and mandating that the next two home WC qualifiers have to be played in an empty stadium? I was certain that this would be a result of the constant rain of garbage thrown at Costa Rican players. Isn't this what happens in UEFA?

I'm certain I must have missed it. Hmmmmm.
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HD, there was a statement released by CONCACAF, I couldn't find the link, so let me paraphrase: There will be no penalty issued for the following reasons:

• The apple thrown was whole thus it could have been thrown by a Costa Rican fan thinking Ruiz needed a snack.
• Water bottles....ditto
• Urine bags have been okayed due to the health benefits for human skin have been proven.
• The sharpies thrown could be construed as an attempt by a Costa RIcan fan to get Ruiz to give an autograph.
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Rest assured, if that had happened in the good ol' USofA, we'd have been spanked hard...points deductions, loss of a home match, etc.

:laughing-rolling:
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jumpkutz · Jun 15, 2013

NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

http://www.ussoccer.com/news/mens-national-team/2013/06/kyle-beckerman-added-to-mnt-roster.aspx

LaxAttack · Jun 15, 2013

I think they just brought him in since they are in Salt Lake and this is the last game of these run of games, so he gets to come and work out with the team. I highly doubt he will play.

Clevelandmo · Jun 15, 2013

Can someone remind me . . . where is Mo. "injured", "resting"? Why is he not one of our Dmid options?

And US Soccer can we not fast track petition for Osvaldo Alonso's one time switch to the USA. If ANYONE has a valid reason to switch nations, he does.

LaxAttack · Jun 15, 2013

Clevelandmo said:

Can someone remind me . . . where is Mo. "injured", "resting"? Why is he not one of our Dmid options?
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He just had surgery (I think a hernia) last week.

Edit - He tweeted this out last week.

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