Obama Scandal Thread

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Don, do you still beat your wife? Same thing.

I'd hope people can see the transparency of each side when they do this stuff. People's obvious bias will not let them admit much if anything favorable about the opposition and it blinds them from obvious questions/shortcomings about their own side. It seems to be on every channel/every show I see these days.

Speaking of Fox News though. I'd quit watching the channel b/c the "talent" seemed to have the combined iq of my sock drawer. The few times I have tuned in lately, I catch a gaffe. How can they be that bad?

 

Yeah, it's funny. The former Communist News Network appears to be in the middle compared to those two.

 

The Obama is a Muslim question wasnt just invented from the blogosphere like in Don's scenario. At a school he attended as a child, his religion was listed as Islam in the school records. The article I read said he was probably listed as muslim because his step-father was muslim and he didnt really have a religion at the time. He also has a muslim name. I agree with Spencer that it shouldnt matter even if he was a muslim. However, it will to some because they will think he might make compromises or concessions that wouldnt be in the US's best interests. This is a reason why more experience before running for President would've been a good thing; there would be more history in terms of his voting and alliances, and this could've eased the doubts of more people.

The biggest scandal I've heard in terms of Obama is his years in New York. He doesnt say much about them, other than he buckled down and studied like a monk, and will not release his transcripts from Columbia. I've also heard that no one really even knows who his friends were during this time. I havent looked into this-only heard the accusations but I thought someone on here might want to debunk it.

 

The accusations were 1) the lack of details regarding this time and you just supplied them so whoever questions this hasnt done their homework 2) the fact that he wont have his Columbia transcript released. So I guess all that is left is #2.

 

I have to agree about Fox News -- they've really allowed themselves to slip into the realm of nitwit right wing bloggers. I've also watched more CNN lately than anything else because I think they do a better job.
And I never thought I would have said that a few years ago.

 

I dont see what his undergrad days have to do with anything. Human interest, maybe.. but that could wait till later

Nor anything other than his work on HArvard Law review or 'pro bono' social work as Law Student.

And Speaking of..Biden as Law Prof
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I hate to butt in on the discussion when I said I wouldnt post in the thread if I couldnt rebut... but I'd appreciate it if you would post links relating to charges of smears.

Saying it's happening doesnt mean it's happening. Since I havent been listening to Rush or HAnnity, I dont know if it's on there, but it certainly isnt on the blogs I read... even some of the more offensive ones.

If you're saying it is Going to happen, then make that clear.

 

Lipstick
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Sex Ed for Kindergarteners

Did Barack get too cute with the lipstick on the Pig phrase?
That phrase is commonly used in the way Barack presented it. And having watched the whole context, he meant it the way he said it.

Like it or not, though, Palin essentially 'trademarked' "Lipstick". If the crowd had not begun laughing immediately, there would be no traction.

Sex Ed for K: The idea of the bill was to educate on dealing with child predators.
Out-of-bounds!
But Barack should deal with that immediately, using the facts in retort not whine about 'Honor'; the voters arent {all that} dumb and the response would be much more powerful. THEY can make the connection to cheap ad bites.
There's no way to stop stupid misleading bites like that without assuming some intelligence for the average guy.

I know I just violated the above post on links... but if you dont know about these scandal points, you wont care about this thread either. And the comments on them are my opinion

 

I am so sick of this election already, and very disappointed in the respective parties and campaigns. Why exactly are we talking about 'lipstick'? Columbia transcripts? I know, I know, the media needs to pay the bills -- but the voter/consituent/consumer could at least demand a higher standard, a movement that could start with the respective campaigns, to not cross a certain line.

I really wish that modern politics could stay away from Rovian philosophies and tactics - but I guess modern candidates don't want to leave that chamber loaded. It's really sad for such an important election to be reduced to blogosphere ethics.

 

This is the scandal/debunking scandal thread so we are mostly just talking about the political nonsense. If you want to talk about real issues that matter go to the campaign thread or start a new one. On the former thread I posted Obama's answers to 14 questions on science-related issues and 'Fog is the ony one who responded.

And I happen to think both McCain and Obama are showing more civil behavior than the candidates of the previous 2 elections at least, probably the previous 8