Fulham at Derby County

Discussion in 'Fulham FC News and Notes' started by jumpkutz, Aug 21, 2014.

  1. jumpkutz

    jumpkutz Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately, I see a fourth straight loss here.
    When last we left Derby, they were losing a playoff for promotion at Wembley to a miracle goal by one Bobby Zamora (remember him)? Which means they're still pretty good. Which means it'll be a miracle if we compete well enough on the road against another quality Championship opponent to earn a point, much less three.
    Personally I'd be happy with some goals (plural). McCormack needs to start earning his fee. A proven goal scorer at this level not scoring is unacceptable. Whatever needs to happen to get him some looks needs to happen.
    Derby has a good squad, including Leon Best who, you may remember, scored a brace for Newcastle a few years ago to beat us at the Cottage. He's been a second half sub for them so far this season. Zak Whitbread has started in one of their three matches so far, but has been an unused sub in the others.
    COYW!
     
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  2. astroevan

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    After two consecutive home losses to arguably lesser quality teams, I am with jump in predicting a loss. I just don't see how we will be able to turn it around on the road against one of the promotion favorites. Derby are also coming off of a loss and will be motivated to turn it around.

    Your guess is as good as my two year old son's as to who will be named to the squad and who will start. FM mixes it up way more than I would like and this is the middle match of five over a two week stretch so there's bound too be changes.
     
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  3. nevzter

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    The ghost of Brian Clough came to me and explained, with expletives, that Fulham would defeat Derby this week.

    COYW
     
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  4. tim

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    Made me think of this:



    Here's hoping Steve McClaren isn't half as charming. By the way, if you haven't seen the movie, do yourself a favor and check it out.
     
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  5. HatterDon

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    I have no idea what the result will be, but I'll be listening to GJ
     
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  6. dcheather

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    I wonder if SD will be broadcasting as well? They cut a lot of the replay out. Aggie and watched an extended highlight, instead of a full replay. In a way Fulham spared us some suffering. But they cut everything critical SD said in the game, so of course a 90 minute game turned into 40 minutes.
     
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  7. AggieMatt

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    I'll be tuning in to hear Jim's broadcast and hang in the chat room this time.

    Have to say I've lost a bit of respect for old GJ though. Syncing video to his audio has revealed he isn't just biased, we all knew that, but his bias is almost on the fanboy level and a tad embarrassing. No wonder so many fans think the refs are screwing us. Heather and I were laughing at a few of his claims watching the Wolves "extended highlights".
     
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  8. timmyg

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    Which is why I think they brought Davis on board.

    I will miss the match as I will be imbibing beverages across the fair city of Frederick, Md. Another Sunday Funday replay it is
     
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  9. HatterDon

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    Well, the match will be on beIN Sport TELEVISION at 1800 central ... and I've been told it'll be live on the computer link of beIN Sport, so maybe not so much the GJ.

    By the way, although Sean is knowledgeable and interesting, two voices is two too many on radio. They're chatting with each other instead of telling us what's going on. For the first time, it's very hard to follow the match over radio.
     
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  10. dcheather

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    Since there is a strong possibility of this one having a stream available, I'll be in the chat for the real game time.

    I have no clue who will be playing for us, but I guess that's the same with everybody else. I believe this one has disappointing loss written all over it. I miss feeling as though Fulham had a shot at winning a match. This is going to be a long, cruel season I'm afraid.
     
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  11. AggieMatt

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    Oh c'mon Heather, get on board the Felix bandwagon. It's pure genius b/c if Magath doesn't know what we're going to do...and the team doesn't know what we're going to do...Derby won't know either.:rolleyes:
     
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  12. dcheather

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    I would have been more positive about this had Magath only make slight changes last match to a squad that on the whole played decent in the first two matches. But, nope, he reverted back to his Dr Jekyll ways with squad selection. You look at his squad selections and try to make sense of them but you can't. You think, "hey maybe we have a crazy genius on our hands and his ideas just might work." But nope.

    His ideas better start working sooner rather than later, or else I don't think it matters whether HE gets it right or not. Because this winless streak we're carrying over from last season is going to become a burden for the club, if it already hasn't.
     
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  13. BarryWhite

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    I really don't see the first points of the season coming on the road at Derby. Therefore by the laws of Fulhamish there must be at least a point on offer today.

    I'll be partaking in a day of high school soccer viewing so COYW'S & COY Knight's.
     
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  14. AggieMatt

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    Fulhamish died 2 years ago. You have to actually win matches for it to exist.

    Beating Derby Co away is not Fulhamish.
     
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  15. dcheather

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    I'm just baffled. Why are we sticking with Staf? At least Hyndman made the bench this time.
     
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  16. AggieMatt

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    So we roll out with one lineup and formation v Ipswich and play them pretty close. He makes changes to the lineup and formation v Millwall, we get 5 shots in the box and on another day probably get a result. Then he makes radical changes for Wolves, we play easily our worst game of the season, and that's the lineup/formation he decides to stick with, with only one change?

    Ok. We'll see how it works.
     
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  17. dcheather

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    http://fulhamusa.com/chat/

    In the chat now. teams walking out. Crossing my fingers and hoping that Magath's crazy plan works.
     
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  18. dcheather

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    I'm trying really hard to think Magath has a rational plan to turn this around. But I fail to see it when he sees the the team play poorly at home against a newly promoted side and then proceeds to pick almost the same line-up for their road match against Derby, a team who were a bit unlucky to not to win promotion to the Premier League last season. It's just another baffling decision.

    Somebody please tell me everything's going to be ok, because I'm already getting nervous this early in the season.
     
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  19. HatterDon

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    Those of you who are preparing to watch the match replay at 1800 Central on beIN sports TV, be advised that you're going to see "highlights." I just noticed the coverage time was only 90 minutes.

    I noticed that when I cancelled my recording.
     
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  20. timmyg

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    Only saw the first half, but, it seems this may be a breaking point. And yes, there are still 42 games left and we're 2 weeks into the new season. BUT:

    • Fans are through with Felix. Histrionics aside, they are starting to have a case.
    • After posting unfortunate but respectable totals in prior defeats this season; Fulham showed more Jol-era crap being outshot 23(14) to 10(5). Maybe it was just a bad day at the office against a very good team, but those numbers are totally unacceptable.
    • Small sample size, but we're averaging 3 shots on target per game. No wonder we've scored...2 goals (one of which was really an OG). This is also totally unacceptable.
    • I really hope to not see Joronen in net for another 6-12 months. No, not just because his team gave up 5 goals today. The fella has as little presence in the box and command of his CBs as I've ever seen. I'd take Tony Warner's 1-2 howlers per game over him. Or Stockdale...oh, wait.
    • The active squad, as it stands (ie not including the 3-4 nebulously "frozen out") is mediocre at best. Sorry, but it's true. Yes, there are flashes of brilliance and immense promise here/there but the sum is not positive. Part of this may be due to lack of people management 101 (PUT PEOPLE IN CLEARLY DEFINED ROLES THEY CAN SUCCEED IN), part of it is due to age, part of it is due to several talented players stuck in purgatory for no evident reason.
     
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