AlGore: 'too good for politics'

From a feature on him in the 'Tennessean'

Spin?!!!!! You mean like screaming "he played on our Fears!!!!" Then embarking on a campaign, PLAYING ON OUR FEARS!

Is 'spin' something like dismissing contra-indicating relevant facts cited on man-made/CO2/ global temperature relationships.. as "Complicated"?

Is spin something like dismissing your OWN HUGE 'carbon footprint' as balanced out by your 'credit trading' to make up for it... just a few months before even the Guardian points out the hoaxes perpetrated?

And 'reason' pointing out to anyone who bothers to think about it, showing that only the rich/connected have any hope of doing what HE does?

 

RE: AlGore:

Al Gore is no different than any other politician. Always quick to point fingers at everyone else, but never willing to look at themselves in the mirror.

But as a potential president, I would vote for him out of the whole "Lesser of the two evils" situation.

 

I can easily picture petty's eyes bugging out while he typed that. This could be a very entertaining Presidential election just from that perspective alone.

 

Why would my 'eyes' be bugging out... I only write such as yet another reminder, or 'prod' that TRIES to point out that those who lead the initiatives, think they are better than you, and that YOU need to go without. Not them.

If you want to quibble, think how many of the academic advocates of progressive politics and policies would be in favor of a pure academic meritocracy, instead of 'tenure'.

Without his daddy's influence, AlGore would be a totally different person. that's not an aspersion, it's fair for him to use his position. But he ought to at least give some indication he understands it.

In case you dont get the point... he claims he has 'reason' on his side. He equates that with logic, of course, but logic is too close to reality for comfort.

Because logic is usually understood to be based on empirical results.

And his causes are NOT ESPECIALLY... they are based on the same sort of reason that gave us marxist philosophies, which would never have been put down by anyone who realistically looked at the logical side of human nature.
Reason on the other hand may be based on extrapolation from any given set-point.

You know what I mean... like a "Conservative could not possibly care about the poor and oppressed".

Stuff like that is what I refer to as a 'reasoned response' in this context.

 

Re: RE: Re: AlGore:

Because, as he says: 'Politics are based on spin; his views, on the other hand, are based on reason.'

Get it? ... thought so.

 

My commentaries are 'ANGRY' becuase the crap these guys, meaning ALL politicians dish out is simply crap.

Why the hell dont you address what I JUST SAID about Gore and his definition of Spin and Reason?

Why the hell dont you ADDRESS what I say about Human nature, logic and REASON!! Is it because you will have NO truck with ANYTHING THAT THREATENS YOUR WORLD VIEW. And is not your world view based on reason rather than consideration of human nature in concert with empirical history?

I said EXACTLY what I meant. The Marxist philosophies are based on pure 'reason'. Lenin applied them in a practical sense in his writings, and tied them to human nature, is that right or wrong?

I'm ONLY using that as an example of course but 'Reason' alone is deceptive at best and dangerous to everyone at worst.

 

I am ANGRY right NOW because of this crap immigration bill, I've remained silent on it because I wanted to see what I was missing... eveidently I wasnt missing anything. It's supposedly dead, and I would rather it remain so than go through as written... in secret with no input from anyone in a collusion of a bunch of cynical and scared pols.

It is quite simply an AMNESTY bill despite what the unholy alliance say. ALL OF THEM ARE LYING when they say it isnt, or did I get it wrong?

Dont just spout out your rehash of Lib crap, PROVE it penalizes, IN ANY WAY, those who are now here illegally but register and have no intention of taking the path to citizenship.

It gives current illegals a legal status, pure and simple. They pay no penalty, they SUPPOSEDLY must even return to Mexico in a couple years but do you REALLY think they will?

How after all is it ANY different than what they did in 86 when the situation was in no way as huge as it is now? They did NOTHING to enforce ANY of the measures in the bill.

THAT is why I'm angry . I am ANGRY at those who think we are all sheep. You can be one if you want , I'm not.

 

Here's ANOTHER example of why 'Reason' is a poor substitute for reality based LOGIC.

just saw a Beckham advert for MalariaNoMore.org..

When you go on their site, the 'solution' is bed netting*. What about DDT?

REASON ruled OUT DDT . Reason says if too much is bad, any amount is too much.

Logic and common sense says too much of anything is bad, but there are certain amounts that are beneficial.

Of course the 'EDUCATED' INFORMED will have none of that.

* One advantage of the bed netting is that it has dual uses.. in the day you can use it to herd sheep. How appropriate.

The bolded part is the debate point in this particular post. If you want to argue, argue that and dont give me any of your sheep-bleat BS

 

I dont want a bought and paid for president, I want Ron Paul.