The other election.

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BOTH are news to me... I used to be in touch with a couple canuck sources, but not lately.

And I didnt realize you'd moved there.

I have to wonder how much the current situation reflects the HRC's brouhaha. Where Canadians finally realized they dont REALLY have 'Free Speech'.

Judging from the figures there, Alberta must be about as Conservative as its ever been with the old Lib going to Socialists over the last term scandals.

 

Agitator.

 

Did you recommend he change his name to Barack Obama?

 

I think you have to break the parties down

Greens- A green party member has never been elected, enough said.

Bloc- It is my belief this is an illegal party. The bloc's only purpose is to get Quebec to separate. Treason is defined as "the offense of acting to overthrow one's government or to harm or kill its sovereign". Sounds like a match to me.

NDP- The NDP have never formed the federal government, or the official opposition. They never will. They will always remain a fringe party. They can promise that roses will fly out of my ass, they will never have to act on it. Their policies would destroy the country, see under Ontario and Bob Rae.

Liberals- Stephane Dion is one the worst leaders the Liberals have ever seen. He was 4th choice, which is stunning considering the other options included a man who has hardly lived in Canada, and a NDP-turncoat with a track record of destroying provinces.

I wish the liberals would stop picking leaders from Quebec, Canada has 10 provinces and 3 territories.

The Green Shift is a joke. Nobody understands it. I would say half the liberals running do not support it. The whole reason we have an election now is because the Green Shift is such a bad idea, Harper knew he could attack this and possibly get a majority. If this Green Shift is such a good idea, how come Dion didn't propose it when he was environment minister? Emissions went up under Dion.

And how much will it cost to administer? The liberals said the gun registry will cost 2 million to run, well that's at nearly 2 billion now.

The liberals are also soft on crime, want to let 900k immigrants in the country tomorrow, and want to grant citizenship to American deserters, and boost funding for the arts, all of which I am against.

Conservatives- The conservatives basically win my vote by default. The other parties aren't really competition. The main attacks against the conservatives are these two:

War in Afghanistan- Well, the liberals put us there and we have NATO obligations now.

and

Harper is a dictator- This one really gets me, if you want to see a dictator, go to Zimbabwe or Venezuela. Harper is a decisive leader. I prefer a good government with closed doors (cons) than a bad government with open doors (liberals).



I believe in lower taxes, freedom of speech, a justice system not a legal system, small government, a military, open markets, free trade, and a leader that speaks English and is respected on the world stage.

That's why I support the Conservatives.

 

Yea, all the parties have gaffes, but when the conservatives do it, it is an outrage, but that's just the media trying to sell papers and get ratings, so whatever

 

Well, the LAST election I followed closer and I was surprised the Liberals did anything at all in that one. See they're still being stung by their idiocies.

Do you think NDP was the beneficiary?

By the way.. I been following the Quebec debacle for decades and I wish to hell Quebec would just go ahead and secede and form a federal republic with Vermont. Serve 'em both right! And they can take eastern Ontario, just east of Ottawa, with them.

 

RE: Bringing Down the Government

good stuff, spencer.... {scratching head}

 

RE: Bringing Down the Government

This really frustrates me. The NDP are losers, the Liberals are at an extreme low, and all the Bloc members should be tried and convicted for treason.

This proposed coalition is a triumvirate of addlepated losers.

What's the point of an election if the politicians just decide for themselves who will form the government?

 

so let me get this straight...

the separatists wont ever get what they want,
the ndp wont ever win any election,
and the liberals just lost a big election,

so together they're deciding to overthrow the government?

since when did Canada become Congo...

 

Actually it's MORE mucked up than you show Spence.

I havent been following the actual political news up north because my interest and fascination is centered on QUASI-legal issues, specifically the big hit on freedom of speech and press which is, unbelievably, more dire than is happening in the UK.

Dont like what someone says in print? Haul 'em up before some provincial or federal {civilian, not judicial} HRC and bleed 'em out with the 'Thousand Cuts' of legal fees to defend themselves. And when the accused yell 'uncle' you get to shut them up permanently by 'contract' so that if they 'offend' again, you get to take them to an actual court.

 

No... I mean it is happening in Canada, NOT in the UK.

Just one example

How it works:
1. Read something you dont like.

2. Write Letter to HRC of choice {pick your 'judge'}. Only have to note WHY you are offended. Needn't cite caselaw, statute {though that helps}, or anything that requires... like a constitutional clause.

3. Magistrate of choice issues 'cease and desist' or even hauls you up for a hearing. At which the 'defendant' must prove himself NOT GUILTY.

4. If you're a poor preacher or the like, a 'compassionate settlement' is offered. But defendant agrees to shut up forever.

5. If you have a legal staff behind you, the charge will be 'investigated' and heard for several months and a couple of hearings then magnanimously dismissed.

 

Well, Don... near as I can ascertain, that's the point. The Liberals HAVE put together a majority bloc.
The Governor General has the OPTION of dissolving Parliament but its not a foregone conclusion.

I'd think ONE way for PC to throw a monkey wrench into Dion's plan would be to introduce a bill, prior to the no-confidence vote, to give Quebec sovereignty.

At least it would irritate the crap out of Quebecois and that's a good thing. Let 'em form a Republic of their own and take Vermont with 'em.

 

Not sure why... Vermont's full of aged 'New Haven hippies', is that it?

But I would guess our opinion of the Obama cabinet would be pretty close.

If you drop the scales from your eyes on one certain new guy.
- I'll post on that subject later.