1. FulhamAg

    FulhamAg New Member

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    After reading the threads about Boca going to Rennes as well as the signings of other USMNT members throughout Europe, I wonder, where do you rate MLS in relation to the other leagues in Europe?

    I don't follow MLS, have tried a number of times, but just can't get into the league primarily due to the presentation and the lesser quality (as compared to the EPL). A local club might help that cause, but I doubt we'll see one with franchises in Houston and Dallas.

    From what I've seen of the USMNT, my personal preference would be for our guys to go to Europe over MLS which leads me to believe it probably doesn't rate that well.
     
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  2. HatterDon

    HatterDon Moderator

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    We've talked about this on the site many times, but for me, the advantages that even relatively minor european leagues offer over the MLS is the greater degree of competition for places in the starting 11 and the possibility of UEFA Cup or Champion's League participation. The seasons are also longer and, with several cup competitions, provide many more opportunities to play. Finally, most European clubs have reserve, youth, and development leagues, so that younger players like Adu, Altidore, etc., can learn their trade and get games. The longer season, the greater in-squad competition, and the field conditions tends to make our European-based players a little harder to rattle than those who only play in the MLS.

    The quality of the product on the pitch is another question. I quite like watching the MLS. The only thing that's missing is the pace of the English game. This doesn't mean that MLS is poorer quality, it just means that in the US, a player has a split second more time to observe. Great passers like GBS, Beckham, etc. and great strikers like Angel can make an entire banquet out of that extra time, and do. Why is the pace slower? Well, if the EPL played in June and July in Los Angeles, Chicago, New Jersey, Dallas, and Houston, they'd have to play at a slower pace too.

    The good thing about all this, Ag, is that WE don't have to choose. It's like I prefer Mexican food to BBQ, but I can have both every week -- as long as I go to the gym.
     
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  3. quickdraw

    quickdraw New Member

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    I've always been a fan of the MLS and the Crew, but compared to other European leagues, it just isn't the same. It sounds like you are similar to me ... I just can't seem to follow the MLS like the EPL primarily due to the quaility of the presentation. Televised games of the MLS are almost painful to watch with the cameras and announcers.

    But the quality of play is getting better. Much better now with the introduction of players like Beckham and Blanco. So I think give another 10 years and it could be at least equivalent to the CCC or some of the minor European leagues, like the Belgian leagues, etc.
     
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  4. andypalmer

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    At the current rate of progression, once the MLS makes its next financial progression (i.e., raising the salary cap and increasing roster sizes) and the MLS should place itself equal to the 6-10th best leagues in Europe. See the attached for ratings.
    http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uef ... s2007.html

    i.e., this means MLS will be equal to the Portuguese, Dutch, Greek, Russian, and Romanian league. This is not to say that the top teams from these leagues won't be better than the best MLS team, but will mean that, top to bottom, we'll match up well with these leagues.
     
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  5. sublicon

    sublicon New Member

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    Regardless of my support of the MLS and my local MLS team, I would of course prefer US players develop their careers abroad. Clearly we have talented players on the US team that have careers in the MLS, but if I had to choose I would hope that players would have a chance to go to somewhere with a higher standard.

    On another note, if you don't live anywhere near an MLS team I can't blame anyone for not wanting to follow it on TV. It can be shoddy at times, but man . . I feel sorry for people that deny themselves live soccer if it's there. Especially if you're in Texas . . Dallas and Houston aren't bad teams at all. It's obviously not the Premiership, but who cares? If you haven't been to a game, you're not even giving it a chance.
     
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  6. HatterDon

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    not sure you have an appreciation of how far apart things are in Texas. For instance, you're probably as close to the Columbus Crew as Ag and I are to FC Dallas, but I agree. I don't understand how people eschew live professional football. When I lived in England I watched football in all four divisions as well as matches with two "local" clubs who were -- and are still -- below Conference level non-league.
     
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  7. FulhamAg

    FulhamAg New Member

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    First off, thanks to Andy for the info. I really didn't mean to turn this into an MLS pro or con thread. I was really interested in how it compared to the other European leagues and which ones were a step up, as well as which (if any) were a step down. I only mentioned my thoughts on MLS to explain that I don't have a fair assessment of the league b/c I don't watch it.

    That said, with regard to the MLS, Houston is 3 hrs away, Dallas is 4.5 hrs. So if I'm going to follow it, it'll be on tv 95% of the time. If I can't get into that way, it ain't happening. I'll keep trying after the Prem finishes each year, so as to give it a chance, and hopefully one day it'll take. Or it won't. Less time devoted to watching sports wouldn't really be that bad of a thing for me.

    I do travel in state for USMNT matches when we get them, fwiw. I saw the draw in Houston w/Mexico in Feb and witnessed the subsequent shooting outside the stadium after the match.
     
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  8. sublicon

    sublicon New Member

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    No, I do have an appreciation. If it's not anywhere near you, then fair enough. That's what I was saying. If it's near you, then why deny yourself. That was my point.

    Understood and understood!
     
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