Article with perspective on MLS

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  1. Spencer

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  2. ChicagoTom

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    It is a well-written peice by Canales, but I am not sure she did much selling of her point of supporting MLS. Thus, I may sound like an idiot, but I am not sure what the point is she is trying to get across to the reader.

    She talks about how MLS is not the best players or play in the world, but there are fans who support it. Okay, that is great. But Andrea, why should the average joe soccer supporter go to matches? That question is not answered in my opinion and in order for people to want to go to MLS matches, they need to be pushed, motivated and have reason to go. Ms. Canales gives people no reason to go to games in my opinion.

    This is not a rip on the league here, this is a rip on the actual article. The piece read well, but I just don't get the point of the whole thing. Perhaps I am the idiot here.
     
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  3. FFCinPCB

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    Tom and Mike, I am convinced Fulham should join the MLS. I expect a new logo for the site by next week, a new description of what it means to follow Fulham and the EPL, sorry MLS, a new t-shirt design (although the first design is still in producton), Mike needs to return from England, and we will need to totally reschedule the trip to the Cottage and change it to a trip to.....hmmmm, Ft. Wayne?

    Thank you Spencer and Petty, you both have finally convinced me. God bless you both. The MLS, it totally KICKS!!!
     
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  4. HatterDon

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    Poor PCB. I've been catching the Premiership Classics on FSC during my afternoon tea/fitba breaks, and in addition to some sterling play, I've seem some unmitigated crap perpetrated on fans. But it doesn't really matter.

    Doesn't have to be all one or the other. If I'm forced to watch American "football," I'll always prefer to watch a high school game -- I'm a Texan, remember. It doesn't matter how high or low the skill level is. What matters is that there's something happening in front of you that is live and unrehearsed. You're stand the chance of seeing something that nobody has ever seen before or ever will have again. And it's the beautiful game to boot [no pun intended].

    I do understand where you're coming from. When you live in Florida and your professional sports teams set so high a standard [Marlins, D-Rays, Dolphins] year after year, it's hard to get excited about a professional league in your own country playing the game you love best.

    I liked the article, by the way. I never sneer at local theater because it isn't the RSC. I never sneer at local music because it isn't Ben Folds [if you're lucky, though, it can be The Tim and Bob Show!], and I never sneer at the MLS. It ain't the best I've seen, but it beats all those matches with Rotherham and Notts County I used to watch in the '70s wondering what it would be like to have Americans play fitba.

    There I go again.
     
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  5. pettyfog

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    Actually, i think Andrea did everything but bring out the cartoon mallet and hit us over the head with it!

    I DO think some of the Eurosnobs aint gonna like it.
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    Lemme see if I can make the point another way... I have been around a while, so long I can remember when every bar of any size in every town of any size over 15,000 had a cover band, and some of them played five nights a week.

    some of them were awful but some were excellent and most were passable. If you had to listen to a tape of them you might cringe, nut they were LIVE and THERE and there was the right atmosphere. Which we made, by going in the door.

    I wont bother putting a free cd of classical or operatic music into a typical state of art sound system. But if there's a professional or civic orchestra or group playing in a school auditorium (not gym) or someplace better acoustically I'll walk across the street and listen to it a while.

    It's live, you're there, there's atmosphere... just like Don says.

    And if MLS is crap, what are the leagues below the Championship? Dont EVEN tell me that's different!!!!!!!

    I've SEEN Mark Williams. Ive SEEN Ian Woan!

    Well, it IS different... what's different is the freakin' moaners staying away and/or sitting on their hands until the atmosphere and support and quality improves.

    How many different ways do we have to say it!!!
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    Think about a Brit 'American football' fan who will only watch NFL games, wont be bothered to see the Monarchs, or a local BAFL game.

    http://www.bafa.org.uk/
     
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    I do not think the league is crap at all. I have been to games and will continue to go to a few a season. I am a bit perturbed with the Fire charging a minimum of $20 for a ticket and another $15 to park. That is $35 a pop which is a lot.

    If I am home I watch any MLS match on ESPN2 every Saturday. I guess I just love the game and will watch whatever.

    I completely get your point and I am not one who promotes the tearing apart of the league. If you like it great, if you don't there is no need for people to keep slagging it off. Just let it be.
     
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  7. pettyfog

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    And anuvver fing... I bet the game last night looked, on tv, like any other Crew game.

    Official attendance was 13,000 which means there was about 10,000 in seats.

    Well while it WASNT like any other game, if you were there.
    There was originally, an 'official blues section' but it was almost empty... evidently Crew decided it would be better if they were dispersed like the mexico/Us game.

    This had a good effect .. though there were still a few arrests and minor tussles. no, it wasnt as electric as the WCQ but it was better than typical MLS game.. we ALL had fun (mostly the Liverpool fans did, i expect).

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    And here's another Canales article that causes you to think:

    Clint Mathis: "On the outside, looking in"
     
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  8. Spencer

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    Ah guys I don't think Canales was trying to sell the MLS with this piece. I took it as follows.

    She was writing about the US soccer scene in general and how MLS fits into that scene. She writes about the choice the American fan has. The foreign league approach or the league next door approach. She gave what each offers, world-class play and atmosphere from your living room or the open-air green grass yet hokey name and Folgers like play of MLS. Obviously as a fan of both Fulham and MLS I do both.

    PCB my purpose of posting the article was not to convince you that MLS is da league. It was to offer the perspective that this article gives. A perspective I found accurate.
     
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  9. FFCinPCB

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    Just having a little fun, at the MLS's expense. I agree with Tom's perspective on the MLS, but it seems the FulhamUSA site has become a bit of a de facto MLS "crap" (petty's word) site lately, due to the fact that they are the only league, along with the USL, playing now. I am a Fulham supporter, EPL supporter, European Football supporter, U.S. player supporter, and good Fitba supporter. Promoting whatever you like as long as done in a not too offensive manner is allowable and supported on this website. I can't take that away from anyone. Just as well, I get to challenge what people promote on this website as long as I am not too offensive. It is all part of the discourse and discussion.

    Fulham (EPL, Eurpoean Football, U.S. Soccer players) till I die!!!
     
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  10. ChicagoTom

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    PCB, I agree that promoting and ripping the various leagues or topics on this board is a good thing. In fact we have had some good debates on the topic of MLS of late and I expect there to be other topics that come up that have contrasting opinions.

    If we all agreed, it would not be fun on here. Thus, everyone, feel free to disagree with what everyone says. As long as your points can be backed up and you not make any personal attacks on various posters, we will have no problems.
     
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    Re: RE: Article with perspective on MLS

    Great point. I think that means that English cat understands what quality American Football is, and if he follows college football, well that means he is becoming a connosieur.

    And I would bet that more Brits watch American Football on television than go to Monarchs' games.
     
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    RE: Re: RE: Article with perspective on MLS

    I am a American Football fan and if I moved to Germany, I would defently watch NFL Europe. I know its not the same quality but its better then nothing.
     
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