Manny will be Manny -- on the sideline

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  1. SteveM19

    SteveM19 New Member

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

    :3d laughing:

    Jerk. He never was anything more than a savant with a physical skill for which people would pay him scads of money. Now he can see how the real world treats grown men who act like they're 9 years old.
     
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  2. HatterDon

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    Nice apology for a nine-year-old. Not quite sure what other examples you have for "acting line they're 9 years old." Still pissed that he left Cleveland for Boston, are we?
     
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  3. FulhamAg

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    Having recently been put on a med that would cause me to fail a baseball drug test, I find his explanation plausible and would give him the benefit of the doubt. Especially given the lack of history. Then again, I'm not a jilted Tribe fan.
     
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  4. SteveM19

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    1) <-- Not a jilted Tribe fan. I don't really have a baseball team.
    2) <--- I just find his whole Manny being Manny routine so tired and overexposed. My issue is how he whined like Didier Drogba and behaved likem, well, a spoiled 9 year old to get out of Boston.

    Don, if you want more examples, just do a google search -- I couldn't be bothered
     
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  5. SteveM19

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    Excellent article by the Sports Guy on Manny -- http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=mlb

    I was a big Pirates fan growing up, mentally boycotted baseball for the mid 90s, watched the year McGwire and Sosa did their thing, and switched off as McGwire, Palmeiro, and co. lost all integrity in the congressional hearings. Now I just assume everyone cheated in the late 90s-early 2000s, and that the whole thing was as stage managed as the 1919 World Series. I haven't followed the game since then and probably never will.

    If my son gets exposure to the game, it won't be from his old man. That's really sad.
     
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  6. pettyfog

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    Umm.. Steve, that is IDIOT-savant. At least I think that's what you mean.

    But I think stepping back, you can find the same things that cause you distress in almost every sport.

    What makes you think sport stars and management should be any smarter than what we see on almost every other stage in this world.
    The only difference is we have more exposure to them.. and they to us.
     
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  7. terry1lj

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    I personally could care less for the moral outrage of most baseball fans. Who cares if Manny, Rocket, Bonds, etc took PEDs? As long as I pay $8 for a beer at a Tigers game I hope they find whatever way they can to win, as long as they don't get caught.

    Ty Cobb allegedly sharpened his spikes, Kenny Rogers (pitcher) was caught with pine tar on his hand in the World Series, most players pre 1980 were hopped up on amphetamines for most of the season, runners on second always try to tip pitches, the unofficial motto of alot of players is that if you aren't cheating you aren't trying.

    The game has never been "clean", for that matter no sport has ever been clean, so please save me the "steroids have tarnished records" schtick, all records will be broken someday. Just watch the game and be happy.
     
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  8. SteveM19

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    Valid points all, but I have a better idea -- I'll be happy and NOT watch the game.

    This goes back to the strike -- I remember the day it happened. I was a newly minted PFC in the US Army performing gate duty on a base in Seoul, Korea. Here I was busting my ass at 0200 hoursor so and they were taking an early vacation because they couldn't split up a $2 billion pie.

    Eventually, something went out of being a fan of the game -- fun. The last few times I went to Jacobs field, I didn't have any. I don't need umpteen billion restaurants, or a catered luxury box, or music at rock concert levels. I won't pay $8 for a beer -- unless that beer has 5 friends. I want to see a good game. And there is so much that goes into all the rest of the production, complete with prices that mean I have to take out a freakin' home equity loan to see a game, that I just don't want to go. I don't care who wins. I don't care who loses. I just don't care.

    In Manny's case, (Clemens' too, and more than a few others) he certainly isn't very bright. He's got good company there. I just reached a point where I can't stand paying attention to an idiot savant that happens to be able to perform a physical act better than anyone else. Sadly, this has reached the point where the father-son tradition of watching baseball games together, at least in my family, that ends with me and my son. Mostly because Dad finds the whole thing aversive and not worth the hassle.

    So my son won't have eposure to baseball, at least not from his Dad. Again, I think that's sad.
     
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  9. HatterDon

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    thanks, terry. The sad thing is that for the last 10-15 years, and leading up to the present day, MLB has seen a level of talent that rivals the 1920s. Albert Pujols, for example, deserves to be talked about with Tris Speaker, Lou Gehrig, Bill Terry, etc. But baseball likes to talk down its product, and they've been successful.

    I still love the game that my father played professionally. It's easy to sneer in you don't really enjoy the game, but as terry says, there's drugs that affect all sports. Listen to Gary Player pleading for drug testing in professional golf. Of, as my brother says, "I'm never watching baseball again. If I want to watch a bunch of whiny, overpaid drug addicts, I'll watch the NFL."
     
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  10. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

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    I blame Curt Flood.

    {ref: Kevin Bacon and unintentional outcomes} :twisted:
     
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