There'll be Xmas in Fort Collins

pettyfog · Nov 28, 2007

The city council and ACLU struck out.

Much like the Christmas shopping season, the ACLU's War on Christmas begins earlier and earlier every year. This year in Fort Collins, Colorado, the city council decided to revise their policies to honor appropriately the holiday that almost ninety percent of America celebrates as Christmas. A task force was drawn up, given their task, and put to work.

Like most task forces set up by governing bodies, the result is only as good as the people you put in charge. In this case, the head of the ACLU in Fort Collins was tasked with running the committee. The result was obviously predictable.

The task force recommended no Christmas lights, no recognition of Christmas, no use of the colors red and green, no Christmas trees, and to otherwise squelch anything even remotely connected to Christmas. Instead, they suggested decorations of icicles and prominent use of the color brown. In short, they suggested returning Christmas to its millennia old pagan roots.
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I'd say, back beyond the pagan roots.

At the city council meeting to vote on the proposal, hundreds of people showed up to voice their concern (instead of the 10-15 people who usually show up) and the proposal was shot down 6-1. The lone dissenting voice protested saying that residents would feel left out and alienated by the city recognizing that the overwhelming majority of citizens are celebrating Christmas.

It's an interesting argument. Tolerance requires that people practice their faith in such a way that never leaves anyone out. Even if you took this argument at face value; that would effectively mean that no one could practice religion because the moment you identify with a group, you tacitly isolate those who are not part of that group. The idea that the First Amendment, designed to protect citizens from government, requires a destruction of all uniqueness is odd indeed.

However, it isn't a matter of simply suppressing religion from public life. These calls simply do not exist (even in the Fort Collins matter) when the religion in question is Judaism or Islam. The ACLU's goal, based on their track record, appears to be to prevent the public proclamation of Christianity in the name of the First Amendment. The bastardization of the Establishment Clause far beyond its intended meaning to require the government to enforce secular humanism on the people is to get the entire Bill of Rights backwards.
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No... when the ACLU begins campaigning against non-christian religious symbols in public, THEN we'll see them in their stated goal.

In fact, the ACLU proponents usually dismiss the crescent or Star of David displayed as a sign of diversity. Diversity, of course, doesnt factor in when you belong to a group that is a 'nominal majority'.

HatterDon · Nov 28, 2007

RE: There

The War on Christmas. What a fekkin' joke. Didn't O'Reilly invent that? Or is it some other Faux Noise hack?

FFCinPCB · Nov 28, 2007

RE: There

You two are celebrities!!!

Well, at least on the Offal, if being a celebrity is what you want to call it.

pettyfog · Nov 29, 2007

RE: There

I notice Don, you didnt address the issue. AGAIN!

No, OW is a celebrity on the offal. And he is only pissed off he couldnt start something on here.

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