More progress from your elected

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  1. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

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    A) If Coleman feels so strongly about this, why doesn't he just introduce it as its own bill instead of trying to sneak it through on the coattails of something else?
    B) Citing a Washington Times article is a great way to identify yourself as someone who only looks at one side of things.
    C) That subway poster photoshop is just oh so clever. It's a shame it has nothing to do with anything.
     
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    So... when do you think Harry Reid will introduce a bill with the same intent?

    MEaning... I'm sorry... but as long as MoveOn holding the puppet strings, nothing's going to happen that doesnt try to embarrass the Bush Administration.

    It has everything to do with everything.
     
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    No political party needs to take active measures to embarrass this administration, it does just fine on its own.
     
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  5. pettyfog

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    Ah well, then why....

    Heh... whatever helps you justify your belief systems...

    Here's the point: Those Imams are suing the passengers who complained about them to the airline.
    Apparently that's okay with you.

    The Dems are going to reinstitute the "Fairness Doctrine" and from your replies, i KNOW that's okay with you. If you cant debate it, better not to have issues come up.

    and, by the way, jmh... if the Dems can use earmark riders to buy votes, what's wrong with trying to do the right thing the same way?
     
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  6. nevzter

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    Petty, what happens when you "assume" facts?

    I am a staunch opponent of the Fairness Doctrine...and for that matter, the FCC as well. There is absolutely no way it comports with the First Amendment and if Congress does pass the law, well, that is why we have 3 branches of government, or possibly a 4th branch inhabited by only Mr. Dick Cheney. I'm 99% certain this Supreme Court would declare the law in violation of our beautiful governing document.

    As for the Imams suing the airline passengers, to me it's irrelevant. So they filed a lawsuit, as did thousands of others in the past months. Do they all have merit? No. But should they be prevented from filing the lawsuit in the first instance? Of course not. From the facts I know about the basis for their lawsuit, which admittedly are few, I don't see their chances of success as very good. They may believe they were wronged, an attorney somewhere may believe they have a case, but it's their gamble to take. Our courts do a remarkable job of sorting the wheat from the chaff.
     
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    Re: RE: More progress from your elected

    Are you going to explain how?
     
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    I just did.

    Next time I complain about Dem riders, I assume I assume I have your support?
     
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    And nevster... it's all well and good to say let the courts settle it. Again, I'll leap to an assumption. You're a law student?

    The fact is that the knowledge that one can be subjected to a frivolous suit has a chilling effect on anyone who might be aware of the possibility.

    And THAT is the point of that poster.

    You will note that we had the "Fairness Doctrine" twenty years ago. The premise on which it was instituted is even more compelling today. For you to say that the courts will work it out is to put your faith in the court as legislator proctor.

    It of course WILL be either dropped after the Dems milk it for all it's worth or it actually MAY pass, so Dubya can veto it. So once again the Dems will just file it away and try again later.

    Interesting you arent concerned that they even want to do it.
     
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    Maybe if people knew the difference between prayer and actual suspicious activity, then we wouldn't have to go through this. When I usually got on the subway in the morning to get to school there's always this Muslim I see reading the Qu'ran just reciting very quietly. And you should see the people around him. They're scared to death. It's sad.
     
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    Yes, you're right WU, and anyone objecting to that should be set straight immediately. it only takes a little common sense.

    But that is NOT what the Flying Imams is about... they were doing their 'Rituals' in a loud and attention seeking manner.
    Seat Belt Extenders when none were fat.
    Moving about, changing seats
    Saying loudly 'God is Great'

    It WAS of course an exercise in unnerving the infidel. And by far NOT the first time.
     
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  12. Spencer

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    Interesting that Norman is getting involved in this now.

    For the first half of his term he did everything Dubya and crew could have asked for. Since then he has been moving left and further left(eyeing his upcoming re-election bid). I'm not sure how this fits into his master plan.

    Despite him being such a suck-up lacking conviction I still kinda like the guy. Most believe he was a good mayor in Saint Paul. Although every now and then I have to watch George Galloway shred him to bits on youtube, what a performance that was!(seeing that performing is what Galloway does)

    Looks like Al Fraken will be gunning for his seat. Will be interesting! Franken & Ellingson. What will Rush, Hannity, BillO be saying about us Minnesotans then?
     
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    The fact you bring up Galloway 'shredding Coleman'' speaks volumes.

    I assume you are keeping up with 'Georgie' in the news... evidence is pretty good he's been caught out as a liar. He might even lose his seat.

    And is why i am no longer pussyfooting around and I'm calling a leftist a leftist.
     
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    It's not my belief that the courts will rectify legislative mistakes...it is how the system is set up so that either liberal assholes or conservative pricks don't run roughshod over the rest of the country. It's the fundamental principle of the separation of powers.

    That poster is bullshit and has 'nothing to do with anything,' to bastardize one of your favorite quotes. It's political propaganda plain and simple, just as the Dems attempting to bring back the Fairness Doctrine is blatant political posturing. It's all bullshit and doesn't help my country progress in the least.

    I'm not concerned with the Dems trying to adopt the legislation anymore than I'm concerned with incentives to adopt "faith based initiatives" (clearly that title does not comport with separation of church and state) or freedom fries. The Constitution will ultimately decide whether bullshit legislation is upheld or invalidated.

    But, in the end, I don't begrudge political parties for trying to advance their agenda through the proper channels, i.e. legislation. Respect for the process needs to be brought back to the forefront - the process being the governing of the U.S., not the advancement of polictial interest groups at the expense of actual government. In my opinion, the whole lot of Congress, from Gingrich to Pelosi, can all go to hell. The current Congress are spineless and the previous Congress were presidential toadies. Although he's not a favorite of mine, the Reagan administration and the Dem Congress were able to accomplish a great deal via concillatory politics. There's no such thing as concillatory politics in this country anymore. Either you're with me or against me, to a disasterous degree, is the mentality of the last 12 years of Congress. Obviously, it's always been there, however the Gingrich lead witch hunts sharpened the divide to the point that cooperation between dissenting political viewpoints was no longer an alternative. But then again, it's only politics..

    "People say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one..."
     
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    Oh god P-fog is interpreting my posts and seeing through my morally corrupted soul :(

    I brought it up because to most it is what Norm Coleman is known for. But in truth I do admire Georgie and all others with that sort of undeniable political talent. What he does is an art form, I admire Christopher Hitchens for the same reason. You don't have to look much further than his Saddam a$$ kissing to see that his motives aren't what we wish they were. I love the political theater and Galloway is the master of it. Right or wrong I can't help but admire it.
     
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