Chavs

What the hell are they? I want to know what they are before I process the concept that perhaps chavs suck. Are there any US-equivalents to the chav? Thanks.

 

Wikipedia to the rescue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav

 

Chelsea Fans...no seriously. As with my post about the FA Cup, I could seriously see a distinct 'look' to a Chelsea fan.

 

Thanks. That makes things a bit clearer.

As does the entry PCB. I try to avoid Wikipedia for slang terms due to the...uh...interesting editing that goes on by some fools (who may or may not be chavs).

 

Not exactly pertinent..

But might be titled once and future chavs

 

Its interesting. Young people are always looked down upon, often rightfully so, and blamed for all sorts of problems and this sterotype is just a continuation of that.

Perhaps a little harsh to label every kid wearing a hoodie a chav, as you'd be pretty hard pressed to find a kid who doesn't own and wear multiple hoodies. I know I do! I stay away from the gold chains, flat brimmed fitted caps, ect. so I think I'm safe from being classified a chav. Hope so anyway!

White Witch wrote in her Boro game report;

They were London kids wearing hoodies and so the chav stereotype was held against them. Probably pretty typical.

Will say that "happy slapping" trend is troubling. As for US equivilent of chavs, defiantly skate boarders.

 

Unfortunatly "Chavs" are a relection on the fear held in society against small groups of young people. If you are over 25 you are powerless to do anything about them without the very real risk of ending up in prison or less likely - in hospital.

I work with some 14-18 year olds chaps, some wear hoodies, and all are fantastics guys that would not beat up old people, carry knives or run riot on the busses.

Like football hooligans, it only takes a couple of knife carrying, bling wearing litter imps to tar the whole lot as rotten.

Petty - love the picture, a perfect example of why children cannot behave in society - parents have a lot to answer for.

 

An amazingly accurate typo.

The problem is that kids in following popular trends.. ESPECIALLY in acting tough-cool to impress their peers.. only serve to make people mistrust them.

I've seen that first hand. 20 years ago worked in downtown dayton and near a metro bus hub stop. Every day after the downtown schools let out, 20 to 30 urban youth standing around 'jiving' as we used to call it. they didnt really scare me, though I was sure to walk around, but it more than any other reason, almost KILLED the downtown business.. so THEN it was the shpping malls in the suburbs.. and THEY had to install youth restrictions after the oldest of those malls had to shut its doors on account of 'roaming youth' and the occasional brawl but more frequent car break-ins..

 

But All is NOT lost on all parents!

Evidently though, the lessons are mixed:

Umm... I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be the sign that was humiliating, picking up the trash was meant to be a constructive make-up.

Also no word on whether the school handed the teacher involved a broom for letting class discipline get so lax.

Teacher / pupil... not 'buddy', pal or chum!

{Note: the directory in the CBS link shows it was filed under /strange/.. that's pretty sad in itself}
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In the same vein, but Here's a BETTER story on postive parenting:
Calif. Mom Makes Girl Suspended for Bullying Hold Up Sign Outside School: 'Don't Be Like Me'

Uh-oh! That principle must be about ready to retire with a reactionary attitude like that!

 

Isn't that the sad truth. I see peers of mine all the time who are desperate to make the impression that they're hard, poor, from the streets, crip, blood, whatever nonsense is the current fad, then their mom comes and picks them up in the families Chrysler minivan and ushers them back home to Lakeville, Roseville, or Blaine. Ridiculous and Retarded, how do they live with themselves!

 

Dont get it wrong, Spencer... nothing's changed about how kids act, watch any of the 50's teen angst movies.
what has changed are the stakes are raised... they have to go 'further out' for the same level of cool.

 

to add to Petty's last post, I think it's something that can't really be helped...

Every Generation has it's normal anti-social behavior, with the next generation thinking that the last generation's normal anti-social behavior is lame. So the present generation sees or hears tales of their parents' shenanigans, and they think that's what is normal. So they strive to be at LEAST more outrageous than their parents...

the good part is, that can only go so far. I would like to think that most semi-intelligent teenagers eventually realize they can only get away with "So-much" as a youth while still staying relatively clean so they can make a change toward a stable lifestyle. Eventually, kids might start acting more responsible than their parents in order to show rebellion (and stay out of prison) ... At least, I hope so...

 

Here's a thought...I always believed kids take what their parents give plus 10%

IOW they typically look at the hard and fast and bend it but dont want to break it.

 

Heres another element to it. Due to our super PC paranoid world kids are not really allowed to do as much as they once were so long as their parents can help it. They can't ride their bike half a mile to the park because the parents refuse to let the kids out of their sight, they can't wear their pirate costume to school on Halloween because it includes a plastic hook, they can't beam dork face over there with a snow ball because you'll be suspended for a week. The list goes on and on.........

At some point the wee ones grow up and their parents are unable to dictate them as they once could. After constant sheltering they get free get a taste of that fresh air and go nuts! And once the rebellion gets going theres no stopping it.

 

Yer wise beyond your apparent years, spence

 

I agree with Spencer...

With the way everyone is anymore, I find myself telling my children they aren't allowed to hang out with certain kids in the neighborhood because the kid's parents are the type that might sue if their child gets a boo-boo while playing...

In this overprotective world of political correctness and extended liability, it's become even more apparent to parents that whatever their children do, they are responsible... Though that seems like it would be a good thing, it isn't... Parents end up keeping their kids under wraps, and they let TV and Video Games raise them...

Used to be, a kid would disappear for hours... He/She would be out exploring, getting into mild mischief, most of all, LEARNING...

Not anymore... we have this generation of kids that will probably live at home until their 40's... Why should they move out? Mommy and Daddy take care of everything...

 

Here's the other side of todays teen; 50 hour work weeks.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... eMain/home

Many teens don't have jobs but the ones that do get sucked into doing more and more hours in chase of the $$$$ and employers are all to willing to accomedate.