Roy Orbison's Birthday

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  1. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

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    In my morning perusal of Right Wing blogs {so's to know what I should think today} I see Powerline's Scott Johnson paying tribute on the anniversary of Orbison's birth.

    I find the wiki article on Orbison to be pretty comprehensive. Note the early connections through Johnny Cash and Sam Phillips of Sun - it reeally WAS a small pop music world back then!

    But it saddens me a little to realize that his broadcast tribute... which I recall as 'not long ago'... happened in 1987.
    That was a great show. But, to me, the crowning achievement was his joining the Traveling Wilbury's.

    What set Orbison apart from all the others was his voice; certainly it wasnt his looks. And in the early sixties, a good song with a great alto voice was plenty to make it on the charts... and the charts were full of them. As I recall, the great ones at that time were Johnny Mathis - whose appeal to guys was limited by his obvious 'gay-ness' {but if you wanted music to seduce by, there was none better than Mathis}, Dee Clark who made a GREAT one-hit wonder 'Raindrops (falling from my eyes)', which sadly doesnt exist online anywhere I can find, and Orbison.

    And Roy Orbison was the king!
     
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  2. jmh

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    RE: Roy Orbison

    One of the biggest copyright law cases in the recent past was Campbell v. Acuff-Rose Music, probably better known as the 2 Live Crew case. For those who don't know, 2 Live Crew were sued by Acuff-Rose Music (the copyright holders) for sampling (and parodying) Roy Orbison's "Oh, Pretty Woman" in their own "Pretty Woman" without authorization.

    I'm not going to go into the details of the case, because they're really extraneous to this story. The point, though, is that it's a seminal case on parody and fair use, so we spent the better part of a week on it in my Copyright Law class a couple of years ago. And throughout this protracted discussion, every time my professor referred to Orbison, he called him Ray Orbison. We thought about correcting him, but it was just too funny watching to see whether he might catch the error himself.

    Anyway, that's my Roy Orbison story. Happy birthday, Roy.
     
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  3. HatterDon

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    0947 CDT, April 24, 2007 -- HatterDon endorses everything in 'fog's post above.

    With one minor exception -- "100 Pounds of Clay" and "Raindrops" were hits for Gene McDaniel as I remember.

    And, yes; Johnny Mathis got more guys past first base than anyone until Percy Sledge recorded "When a Man Loves a Woman" -- the greatest slow dancing song of all time.

    But back to Roy Orbison. The Tim and Bob Show do "Crying" and "Pretty Woman." In the former, only HatterMom has the necessary range to carry it off all by herself. For "Pretty Woman" it takes most of my low baritone range and Steve's high tenor range to match what Roy brought to the table all by himself. You'd be pleased, fog, to see the reaction on people's faces when Steve hits those five notes at the beginning of "Pretty Woman!"

    Finally, I can't watch a Penn State football game without thinking of Roy. If I knew how to do it, I'd like to paste a picture of Roy next to one of Joe Paterno -- both from about 1975 and post them side-by-side in this thread. Spooky. :shock:
     
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  4. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

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    Clay, yes... Raindrops 'It must be RA-aindrops.. falling from my Ay-Eyes' - no.

    Not saying he didnt record a cover... saying it was only Dee Clark's that mattered. Here's a karaoke version.... best I can find. Tense your back muscles at the end .. you'll need it. At least it's the original music.

    The big difference between you and me, Don... is that your romantic outlook extends to your politics.
     
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    Re: RE: Roy Orbison

    That's interesting in itself... did the subject of Weird Al and the LACK of litigation on his pieces come up? since I'm a BIG Weird Al fan.
     
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    RE: Re: RE: Roy Orbison

    When really pushed once during an interview about whether the artists whose songs he parodied ever raised a fuss, Weird Al quietly replied, "well I no longer do my song 'It's All Billy Joel to Me'."

    [and your problem, 'fog, is that your soul DOESN'T extend to your politics.]
     
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    RE: Re: RE: Roy Orbison

    ... Right on the former. Rightbrained on the latter!

    If you libs want to make the perfect world; Suggest you start with the bad guys... or do you subscribe there really arent any. That we can all just get along?
     
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  8. HatterDon

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    RE: Re: RE: Roy Orbison

    Not perfect; just better.

    Sure, there are bad guys in the world. I just personally don't think it is or was a good idea to sacrifice the lives and [literally] limbs of thousands of American soldiers and Marines to depose of a relatively minor bad guy -- especially one who was no threat to us. I thought it was a bad idea from day one, long before doing so turned the entire region into chaos and did more to foster terrorism than any act I can think of.

    And, 'fog; you're not only hijacking your own thread, you're turning a relatively sweet salute to Roy Orbison into yet another opportunity to twist your innards into a rope.

    Take a break; have a Kit Kat.
     
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    Re: RE: Roy Orbison

    I don't recall that coming up. As I understand it, Weird Al generally gets permission to do parodies; the Coolio business was an anomaly that reportedly involved some confusion between Coolio and his record label, and eventually resulted in an agreement to pay royalties rather than litigation.
     
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