Why am I not surprised...

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  1. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

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    NY Daily News: {Students} Caught cheatin' ... on ethics test

    What students? JOURNALISM students!
    Heh. AP has quite a few openings for Arabic speakers.. or even those who can play one in an interview.

    ** Anyone want me to translate what is meant by 'Tribal loyalty'? I dont think it means other journalists.
     
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  2. FFCinPCB

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    Is "tribal" the new, not so new, buzz word?

    Certainly doesn't put people on edge........yet.

    But just to make certain, what's your take on it Petty?
     
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  3. pettyfog

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    1. 85% of Journalists classify themselves as 'Liberal'

    2. Far and away, most cited reason for becoming a journalist:
    "To make a difference in the world"

    Want links?
     
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  4. HatterDon

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    Who took the poll? and When? Harris? USA Today? Conservative Apocraphyl?

    "90% of statistics are made up on the spot." Stephen Wright
     
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  5. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I know... you believe polls are subjective... unless they make you right.

    If it were the NY Times, would that do?

    sheesh!
     
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  6. HatterDon

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    No I just remember when Reed Irvine started all this "Fairness in Media" crap in 1980. He did a poll of the Washington press corps. Those few who responded to his question: "who did you vote for in 1976" fell out [as I remember] about 65% for Jimmy Carter. Despite the fact that Carter was the most conservative Democratic president since Grover Cleveland and Ford was running with Nixon's pardon around his neck, Irvine connected that miniscule representation of one group of reporters response to one question to determine that there was "liberal bias in the media."

    Over time, I've seen that number change and the basis of that number change. But let's say it is correct. And who cares if it is or not, unless you believe that all conservatives have ethics and no liberals do. Let's take Mr. Peabody's wayback machine and ask this question of conservatives in 1981:

    "Who did you vote for in the 1980 Presidential election?" And let's say that 85% of those conservatives said "Ronald Reagan." Would I be fair, then, in interpreting that preference as meaning that 85% of conservatives prefer to vote for a divorced man who believes in astrology rather than a Bible-believing fundamentalist Christian who is and has always been faithful to his wife?

    Of course not, but I bet I could find some blogs somewhere who support that.

    Later, Fog. I'm flying home!
     
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  7. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

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    Stop right there.... I couldnt read ANYTHING after that... because I was rolling on the floor laughing, and eyes watering besides.

    So you're going to have to qualify that:

    First, though, let me say that Carter is the probably most compassionate and caring human being ever elected President. However... he is, and was, out of his depth and unfortunately inflicts his simplistic geopolitical idiocies on us to this day.

    so:

    Are you referring to what we ACTUALLY got in Carter, or what we THOUGHT we were getting?

    Compared to what we thought we got in Truman or what we ACTUALLY got?

    Aint NO ONE perfect for all season but I think most people if we survive Carter-politik and reading real history, if liberal academe wil allow objective analysis will vote for Truman as the most conservative Democrat president since whenever.

    Though.. a case COULD be made for Bill Clinton, based on overall results.

    Did I make is perfectly clear? Carter was good for two things... washed out the {mostly emotional} stench of Nixon and taking Egypt out of the active participant role in middle east warring.... Oh, and he got Ronald Reagan elected.

    BEsides that he is probably the one person most responsible for the shape the middle east is in.

    Carter should keep his F@#$$#g mouth SHUT!
     
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  8. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

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    Well, I finally wiped my eyes and read the rest and I guess Don was referring to 'religiously conservative'... well, soorry... Braaaaaaaaaach!

    Again!

    Not that he might not have been that, overall... but throwing Ronnie Reagan in there, and 'ahem' some obvious 'un christian judgements' on him doesnt mean a thing.

    And Jimmie Peanut has a problem with his Southern Baptist beliefs, in my opinion.

    He wants to ignore two principles of the Gospel.
    1. Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar, unto God, that which is God's
    - He may be one of those few who believe that, in washing his hands of the crucifixion Pilate bears blame because he could have stopped it.
    - He may also be violating the converse which is he should have been stridently anti-abortion.

    2. Do not attempt to make heaven on earth.
    - Obviously not on purpose, but his appeasement of those who want to kill us, is effectively doing that.

    For PRACTICAL purposes and what MOST conservatives think... read my thread on Obama and his critics.

    Oh... and 'Pride goeth before the fall'. Again, he considers himself a 'humble man'.. but the reality shows different. His accounts of the Iran Hostage crisis, read between the lines points out he would NEVER consider admitting what he did about it was a mistake.
     
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  10. HatterDon

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    Well done, Petty. Three consecutive posts with back-to-back-to-back ignoring my question and not responding to my point. But, as you said to both PCB and me, "I don't know why you guys bother."

    Rant on, brother, rant on! I'll let you continue to chat with yourself.
     
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  11. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

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    Whatever!

    That link talks about a 2002 poll.

    Journalists:
    Dem 37 Ind 33.5 Rep 18.6 "Other" 10.5

    Public
    Dem 32 Ind 32 Rep 31 Other 1

    So.... I was wrong.

    However NOW we could quibble about Editorial staff affililiation... but I wont,

    I WOULD like to understand the difference in 'other'.. as I'm thinking the understanding of it changes depending on wording. And I would like to know what 'independent means... I've talked to too many libs who class themselves independents {in fact I USED to, until I noticed that}

    And there's a guy named Andrew Sullivan who actually called himself 'Conservative' who doesnt seem to follow any template I've seen in either house of that label. Not even a Buchanan {Screw everyone else} conservative.
     
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