fascism

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  1. Spencer

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  2. HatterDon

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    Hey Spence,

    I read this to see what comes from "a crazy website," but I think these 14 characteristics are pretty solid.

    While it's always tempting to draw parallels, one needs to be very precise about doing so. Having said that, these characteristics encompass pretty much all the authoritarian regimes of the 20th/21st centuries whether they label themselves fascist, communist, or religious-based.

    Thanks for the post.
     
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  3. pettyfog

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    I have no comment... because it's true. But, other than the 'male domination', it is true of ANY country at war.

    We are at war.

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    Ah.. this is STUPID!!

    What's your point, Spencer?!!!! Pick ONE of those and we'll debate it.

    Then I will pick one, and you'll debate it... if your cojones have descended, that is!

    Reminds me of the old, "It's Large, has four legs and hooves, a tail and walks around all day eating grass... let's milk it!"

    "No, let's ride it."
     
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  4. pettyfog

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    RE: Re: RE: fascism

    It's interesting because they fall under 'truisms' .. first cousing of 'stereotype'

    I guess it WOULD be a good contretemp to those who blow on about Bush/ Republican fascism.

    1. The flag is NOT 'all over the place'

    2. He forgot - Criticism oif the glorious leader is stifled, with severe penalties.. in this case, seems to be the opposite.

    3. He forgot - the cult of personality: pictures of glorious leader everywhere.
     
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  5. HatterDon

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    RE: Re: RE: fascism

    Fog, nobody in the article, nobody in any of the posts by me or Spencer mentioned the United States, the Republicans, nor President Bush. The only person doing that is you.
     
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    RE: Re: RE: fascism

    oh.. yeah... that's why it was posted. Just 'interesting'... gimme a break.
     
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    RE: Re: RE: fascism

    I found it fascinating, as both a student of hisory and a student of life.
     
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    Re: RE: Re: RE: fascism

    Then you'll also find interesting what two indicators are MISSING from that list of 'hallmarks of a fascist'...

    In fact, on reflection, they are, or should be, #1 and #2. Because they exist PROMINENTLY in all cases in history that I can think of.

    Yet... for some reason.....
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    I dont know why I didnt bother to look at the "Source Site" for the guy who wrote those 14 points. i finally did and it is:

    Council for Secular Humanism
    IOW, it's a promotional site for one of the world's leading religions.

    I recall, as a kid, hearing many sermons on the dangers of this fast growing belief... and my church and pastor were NOT exactly what you would call 'fundamentalist'.

    I'd like to point out several telling points on that publication index:

    Features: Humanism and the Science of Happiness

    The reason that is a full section being that is the core tenet of Secular Humanism. Yet, admit it... some of the most miserable people in the world are secular humanists.


    Humans Are Hive Creatures

    - I cant read this because it isnt featured... but I have to assume it is meant as written.
    Doesnt that explain a lot? How does that make you feel?

    It is, of course, pure crap. Apart from the pure idiocy of term association a dispassionate view from ANY angle would point out how just that statement alone - whether meant as an objection to religion or meant as a positive of the case FOR secular humanism.. that this statement could exist should bring a chill to the spine.

    I suspect that it derives from the 'truism' that "Man is a social animal". Can that be denied? No... it's the very reason for 'FulhamUSA' and any OTHER gathering.

    An argument could be made for 'Man is a pack animal' In the sense of wolves, not beasts of burden.

    But.. 'Man is a Hive Creature'.. note they didnt say 'animal' said 'creature'

    Because Hives are a rigid hierarchical society. If you're a drone or 'worker' that is your fate and lot in life and there is no hope.. or even THOUGHT of elevating YOUR lot in life.

    If, on the other hand, they are referring to religious societies and believers... how are they any different?

    A core tenet in modern christianity and most other religions, I should add; is 'Free Will'.
    THAT goes back to the 'Garden of Eden' story.

    And it is a fact that 'expelled from the hive' any member dies. Cant imagine a more powerful reason to promote a 'Progressive Hive' mentality.
     
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