George W Bush hates erotic people!

pettyfog · Apr 4, 2006

Paul Verhoeven, director of the first "Basic Instinct" (which scored $353 million worldwide) as well as the widely ridiculed "Showgirls" (now regarded as something of a camp classic), attributes the genre's demise to the current American political climate.

"Anything that is erotic has been banned in the United States," said the Dutch native. "Look at the people at the top (of the government). We are living under a government that is constantly hammering out Christian values. And Christianity and sex have never been good friends."

Scribe Nicholas Meyer, who was an uncredited writer on 1987's seminal sex-fueled cautionary tale "Fatal Attraction," agrees, noting that the genre's downfall coincides with the ascent of the conservative political movement.

"We're in a big puritanical mode," he said. "Now, it's like the McCarthy era, except it's not 'Are you a communist?' but 'Have you ever put sex in a movie?'"
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Which explains why providers of cable PPV porn and channels like SkinemaX, along with all sorts of internet sex sites are having such a hard time making ends meet

- huh? Whazzat? Oh.... never mind, then.

Christianity and sex have never been good friends... :banana:

WHAT.. A ... LOAD...OF... CRAP! These guys should get out of their little smarmy circles of friends, more.
Seriously... these guys ALSO have political views we should listen to?!!!

Here's a hint you self-serving freakin' idiots....
If there's no one around the forest to hear a tree fall, does that mean it didnt happen?
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But, hey... never mind that, it's not the facts in evidence, it's the seriousness of the charge! Never mind, The movie might just STINK!
It's too bad there werent some main-cast hispanics or blacks in it.. they could have slapped the race card down.

But, hey, maybe this is enough in itself, to create a victim class for effect...
Paging Ms Pelosi!

Ah, dam...sometimes I just can't help myself.. I love this stuff and it would thrill me to death if that original article were reprinted in every freakin' paper in the US and covered every night for a week on the Daily Show!

Smokin' · Apr 4, 2006

Christianity and sex have never been good friends...

HAHA!! Tell that to my altar boy buddies back at the parish.

pettyfog · Apr 4, 2006

That's a low one! And it would lead onto a discussion where I'd have something else -the Vatican- to bash... try to keep on point.

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Now.. about the movie. I have no intention of watching it, since the first one didnt impress me at all, maybe I, and most reviewers, am obviously REPRESSED because, as an imdb commenter put it:

he people that will tell you this movie is bad probably didn't enjoy the first one, or like movies about powerful women who can manipulate a situation to it's fullest. I rank Catherine Trammell as a character who is up there and way beyond Hannnibal Lecture, and others. There is something lustful and lovingly devilish about this woman who personifies control and manipulation.

I think straight men will be spooked by this movie, even more than the first one because it will rub at their psyche.. I think most of the male reviewers giving this film the thumbs down won't like it mainly because it will hit too close to home. Gay men might like it because of the film's emphasis on sexual openness and risk taking. Also seeing a strong female lead character who is in control is a very seductive and fun thing to watch.
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For a compilation of those scaredy-cat weenie reviewers, see Rotten Tomatoes

I guess I'm guilty as charged.. considering I read 'Seduction' as manipulation... and the last thing I want is someone hooking up a chain to my scrotum ring and dragging me around with it... but hey, to each his own.

To return the favor, I would suppose that commenter prefers to be trussed up like a rabid Doberman {ref: freudian hannibal Lecture}... but, when I get lucky, i just wanna have fun

NJGlen · Apr 5, 2006

I wish I could say that nothing about the first one impressed me, But, lets face it, I'd be lying.

Smokin' · Apr 5, 2006

It would be impressive if she kept that thing in shape... its has been like 15 years.

pettyfog · Apr 6, 2006

Ah, well.. to get back on point; the reason this is posted here and mot on movies forum is it's just another indication of the sickness of a society where your failures are blamed on a group or person that had nothing to do with it.
That's a form of denial that is, at the moment, rampant in our culture...
I dont think I have to point out the verbal atrocities committed by those afflicted with Bush Derangement Syndrome in just the last year.

The number of things that Bush has been blamed for in this world since 9/11 (even acts of God like Tsunamis, hurricanes and other natural disasters) is the stuff of major comedy. You name the horrible event, and he is identified as the etiologic agent.

He is blamed when he does something (anything) and he is blamed when he does nothing. He is blamed for things that ocurred even before he was President, as well as everything that has happened since. He is blamed for things he says; and for things he doesn't say.
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The writer/psychologist explains this as displacement

One way you can usually tell that an individual is using displacement is that the emotion being displaced (e.g., anger) is all out of proportion to the reality of the situation. The purpose of displacement is to avoid having to cope with the actual reality. Instead, by using displacement, an individual is able to still experience his or her anger, but it is directed at a less threatening target than the real cause. In this way, the individual does not have to be responsible for the consequences of his/her anger and feels more safe--even thought that is not the case.

This explains the remarkable and sometimes lunatic appeasement of Islamofascists by so many governments and around the world, while they trash the US and particularly Bush. It explains why there is more emphasis on protecting the "rights" of terrorists, rather than holding them accountable for their actions (thier actions, by the way are also Bush's fault, according to those in the throes of BDS). Our soldiers in Iraq are being killed because of Bush--not because of terrorist intent and behavior. Terrorist activity itself is blamed on Bush no matter where it occurs.

It isn't even a stretch of the imagination for some to blame 9/11 on Bush. This is the insane "logic" of most psychological defense mechanisms. They temporarily spare you from the painful reality around you and give you the illusion that you are still in control.

This is exactly the illusion/delusion circulating in the minds of many of the Bush Haters. They want desperately to forget that there is a tidal wave of terror reverberating around the world and to pretend that everything is America's and Bush's fault. If that is true, then they will still be in control of events.
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And if there's not a convenient Bush-hook... or if it plays better; then pull the old 'race-card'. Cynthia McKinney, dontcha know.

NJGlen · Apr 6, 2006

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Smokin' said:

It would be impressive if she kept that thing in shape... its has been like 15 years.
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I understand its down to keegles (sp?)

Smokin' · Apr 7, 2006

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That pee and stop exercise?

God bless that man.

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