Why does MLS have to be so different?

Discussion in 'Prem talk, Those Other Leagues, and International' started by dcheather, Feb 17, 2012.

  1. dcheather

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  2. Clevelandmo

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    I firmly believe that MLS has all these rules and differences solely for the good of the league. And I think it is important that they do this. They say they handle each case in regards to allocation individually so, no, they dont exactly know the rules. If they didnt have the allocation process, then it is very likely a minority of teams (LA, Seattle, NY) would get most of the returning national team players. That could significantly undermine parity in the league, something that has always been a primary goal of MLS. If we dont have parity, I dont think the league will survive or prosper.

    The Robles case proves this point. When he found out he couldnt go directly to NY but had to go through allocation, he changed his mind. Good I say. He's too stupid for this league anyway if that's where he wants to play. I do wish they would make one addendum to the allocation rules though. I wish they would allow a player to return to his former club or his hometown club as a way of avoiding allocation. Maybe there is already an allowance for that I dont know, but I think it would be nice. It would also reward clubs that develop players good enough for the Nats, which would be a way of providing some compensation for losing them to Europe.

    The rules I think are a little dubious and baffling are the discovery rules. Regardless though, I get tired of all the complaining about MLS being different. It has been growing and improving even though the economy has been crap for four years. The Japanese league and the Australian league are both looking at the way MLS is doing things because of the problems they are having. The average salary in the A league is higher than MLS but it is not as good, and there are concerns about the survival of teams. To me it is obvious for all to see that MLS is doing it the right way.
     
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    I'm just not sure I can buy this "parity thing" for MLS much longer. NY and LA are two of the top teams and seem to get breaks in player allocations. Ok DC got Freddy Adu, but that was a favor to the kid more than DC United. MLS play fast and loose with the rules. I'm not sure how much longer they can play this parity card with the players, who sooner or later they're going to want more say and pay like Euro players.
     
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    Nobody likes parity. People like superstar teams with a decent roster of teams after that. It's like this in all sports. If the NBA had a bunch of good teams, but no great teams then they wouldn't get nearly as many fans as they got. Basketball was at its peak in the 80's when there were a few great teams and a bunch of good teams like the Nuggets and Mavericks behind them. I think it would do the league some good to let players go where they want.
     
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    If nobody likes parity than why is the NFL the most successful league in the country? The NBA's decline is not related to parity. It's due to the fact that the game has changed so much and the star players arent what they used to be. I know that sounds very :character-oldtimer: , but it's true. Besides attendence at MLS games is higher than that of the NBA.

    And why MLS aims for parity, the DP rule is a way for superstar teams to develop. Columbus and KC certainly cannot afford the DPs that LA and NY can. I dont recall LA and NY getting any special treatment in terms of allocation order, it's the DP rule that has given them an advantaage. I just think that MLS has found a nice balance of allowing richer teams to spend some money and attract superstars while insuring that MLS grows beyond just a few teams. These things were not done with past leagues and look what happened. USL and NASL are still constantly having problems. Also MLS is requiring and incentivizing it's teams to invest in their youth academies and youth player development. It's a balancing act.
     
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    The NBA isn't in decline, quite the opposite, and this is coming from a frustrated Portland fan, but that discussion is for a different thread.

    After reading the article, the allocation is both confusing and arbitrary, but let's not pretend the MLS can deviate from their business model. It's still in it's infancy and has wisely followed the NFL's model (easily the best run league, in any sport, anywhere in the world). The NFL does have parity, but individual franchises' success is dictated by how well they are run (Steelers w/6 SB wins, Lions and others ZERO SB appearances).

    As opposed to the Prem or La Liga or Serie A etc. where basically the same 2 teams play for the title every year, 2 or 3 more to fill out the CL spots, and the rest looking to stay in the league. I'm a Fulham fan and will never change, but it does kinda suck that I have as much chance to walk on the moon as my team does at winning the league in my lifetime.

    The MLS will eventually loosen up on player movement, but right now the health of the league as a whole is priority one.
     
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    Ok...I think I understand how LA was able to sign almost every single player they wanted this off season. Let's not kid ourselves that MLS has parity, it tries but fails. The same crap teams from last year will be just as crappy. I will probably be giving up on DC to do anything of note probably around mid-May for the 4th straight year.

    NFL is and would be successful with or without their "parity rules." Why? Because the NFL is the only league in the world where the best players are going to play.


    Edit: DC looks a lot better on paper at the start of the season, and the Eastern conference is mediocre compared to the West. But, I've had my hopes up for this team before, well see if they can do anything this year. Not too much longer till Kickoff.
     
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    Heather, are the crap teams from last year that will be crap again this season due to favoritism by the league or the poor management of the individual teams? I feel for DC since their fans set the bar for all other fan groups to follow, but the organization is at fault. From that article it looks like the Galaxy have outworked everyone else while staying in the guidelines, and will have to dismantle next year.

    The NFL would still be successful w/out question, but if they got rid of the 'parity rules' i.e. inverted draft, salary cap, and revenue sharing, ten franchises would immediately sink w/out any hope (Buffalo, Minnesota, CIncinnati, etc.) of competing.
     
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    The NBA is on the rise and that's because there are superstar teams forming. The interest in the league skyrocketed after LeBron went to Miami with Bosh. Nobody cares at all that Charlotte sucks because everybody is watching Miami, Chicago and the LA teams.
     
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    DC United''s woes are mostly due to not having a stadium of their own. They took a big financial hit every home game due to the extortion...I mean rent DC Stadium Authority charges the team.

    Plus, the coaching and ownership changes were always going to put the team in an adjustment period. But mostly they just don't have the $$$ to spend on players like LA, NY, or Seattle does. I imagine the problems might be similar for the other eastern teams other than NY. I'm not sure what NE's excuse is?
     
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  11. VegasJustin

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    I thought DC was supposed to have a stadium like years ago? I remember reading about stadiums way back in 2004 on bigsoccer.
     
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  12. dcheather

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    I discussed it in this post back in Nov.

    viewtopic.php?f=7&t=97#p1115

    It looks like they work out an agreement for one year to play at RFK. I remeber reading DCist not too long ago about the announcement, one of the commentators said something along the lines if the teams lost a few more games and had a racist name they might get a new stadium.

    But even this Deadskin town couldn't get the team a stadium inside the city. They play in MD.
     
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