Denmark v US on Wed.

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  1. SoCalJoe

    SoCalJoe Well-Known Member

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    Duece tweaked his hammy and is out while Guzan and his wife are expecting their first child. Probably going to get worked, but should be interesting to see the lineup.
     
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  2. jumpkutz

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    Out for 2-3 weeks from the tweet I saw. Bet Sigi ain't too happy about that. I think we'll be OK. JK's done pretty good at grooming replacements, so we'll see what he comes up with. I'm sure we'll see Rimando in goal, Jozy up top and Bradley in the middle somewhere... After that, I'm sure Green and Yedlin will be out there a lot since they're well rested. Shea and Bedoya too, then after that.....who knows?
     
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  3. nevzter

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    Man, this friendly snuck up on me.

    And, I know this horse has been beaten enough times to have taken its life a dozen times, but can MLS please recognize international dates and pause the league? Make it up, as other leagues do that recognize international dates, with more midweek matches. I know, travel time is more onerous in the US than other leagues, but adjust schedules for midweek matches according to geography. It's not rocket science, right?

    COYW / COUSMNT
     
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    Methinks Nick had better be on his toes with this defensive lineup.
     
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    At the half, good strike by Jozy for the goal, bad defense on the goal conceded. And the uniforms are crap in action. They don't say USA on any level. We look more like Finland.
     
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    I agree Ag, enough with changing the kit. Where white unless the US cannot, and then, no solid blue.

    *I like AJ and Jozy up front - as long as there's speed on the wings, I think they could develop a nice understanding. Conceding 2 in the last 10 or so minutes is never good, but this wasn't the A team and Denmark are a good side. On to the next match...

    * I didn't watch the match, only have read reports and viewed highlights.
     
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    I missed the last 20 minutes but overall thought we were pretty poor. Jozy's goal came completely against the run of play. We were on the back foot for pretty much the entire first half. We looked a little better in the second half and the second goal was a beauty. But more goals conceded late. A draw may have been a fair result, but we definitely did not deserve to win.
     
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  8. HatterDon

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    Taped the match and haven't watched it yet, but I will.
     
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    The whole back and wings were a mess.
     
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  10. HatterDon

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    I watched the match this afternoon, and I was not in the slightest bit upset or discouraged. What we're seeing here is a coach who is confident enough that his tenure will continue through the end of the next World Cup. For that reason, he's scheduling difficult opponents and trying out as many fringe players as he possibly can to determine his strongest squad for the upcoming Gold Cup. I believe that the only result he's interested in is figuring out who to eliminate from consideration for this tourney.

    The ever irritating duo of Darke and Twellman considered the absences of players like Cameron as evidence that JK has gone cold on them. If that's the case, then he must have gone cold on Mixx also, despite the fact that he's been very effective for the USMNT. I think he's just confident leaving folks out whose skill packages are well known to him. We put out two CBs who have never played together, and put our best wide midfielder in one of the defensive mid roles. We also debuted some guys. Then we made wholesale substitutions at half time -- AND IMPROVED.

    So we lot 3-2 in extra time to the side with the best record in Euro 2016 qualifying. I don't think that says anything about JK's coaching or the overall ability of our squad. JK is treating these internationals as pre-season friendlies. I have no problem with that. Once he gets down to the cups, we'll see a more cohesive squad.

    A couple of points: Jozy really impressed me with both goals. His wasn't even a half-chance, and his mini-cross to AJ was classy. Our guy is hitting form just in time. Also, I discovered that -- since there wasn't really any audible crowd noise most of the time -- I didn't lose anything by muting Twellman and Darke. Those guys drive me nutso. Thank goodness our match against Switzerland is on Fox Sports 1.
     
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    Spot on, Don. It's tryouts. But I like Ian. Twellman, not so much. I miss Darke and Macca on Saturday mornings. They seemed to genuinely disagree on more than one occasion. Whether it was just an act or not, I don't know. But I like them togthether.
     
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    Then you missed both of them harping on Jozy for passing to Aron for the second goal. "He should have shot" Also Twellman stating that he certainly wouldn't have passed in that situation. Twellman acts like he was the greatest player America has ever seen. 30 caps and 6 goals in 7 years proves otherwise.
     
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    Those are the concussions talkin'...or the Macallan single malt that he "borrowed" from Darke.
     
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    Twellman has the best strike rate (goals/min) of any American ever in MLS so he is actually one of the best forwards the U.S. has ever produced, by the numbers. Keane and possibly Stern are the only other players with significant minutes that have produced goals at a better rate than Twellman. His goal production in Europe was of a similar rate. Given that and the fact that he grew up in a family of professional soccer players tells me that he knows quite a bit more about soccer than astroman.
    And anyone with at least partial vision capabilities saw that jozy should have shot rather than pass
     
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    Or, at least anyone with a different opinion than you
     
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    I don't think anybody around here would disagree with the proposition that Twellman, when healthy, was a good striker for the US and MLS. That wasn't the point, though. Sometimes the situation requires a player to decline a "good" shot in order to make the extra pass to set up a "great" shot. That's a team concept.

    The counterpoint, which I also understand is from The Great One: 'you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.'

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  17. astroevan

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    No one is denying that Twellman was very good in the MLS. But the MLS is not on the same level as international play. And yes, Twellman netted 29 times in 58 appearances in Europe for the 1860 Munich reserve team who, by the way, were playing in the 3rd and 4th tiers of German football during Twellman's tenure.

    Someone needs to check Jozy's vision then, since he felt the better option was to pass. And lest we forget, Johannsson scored, so does it matter what Jozy should have done? We got the result that we were all looking for.
     
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