Things you wont see in the MSM

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  1. pettyfog

    pettyfog Well-Known Member

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    * Barack claims to be on the Senate Banking committee when he isnt.
    "a bill.. just through the Senate Banking Committee, that's my committee, will..."
    {just nuance, of course, same as when he piggybacked as sponsor on others' bills in the Illinois Legislature.}

    * HArry Reid on T Boone Pickens' campaign for freedom from foreign oil via windpower: "He was my enemy, now he's my friend"

    T Boone Pickens on drilling: "Hell, yes! Drill it all; offshore, ANWR, everywhere!"

    {You'd THINK the Senate Majority leader would have a research staff!}

    * John Edwards' mistress and love child
    - deja-vu, Newt? Nah... Dems never claimed 'family values', so that dont count.




    * Barack staffer on his address in Germany " It's NOT a political campaign speech. The President of the US does not make campaign speeches on foreign soil."
    "We are thinking of having a professional film crew there"
    {Same staffer, btw}

    * Barack: "We need to move our troops to Afghanistan where the al Qaeda are." {Oh, you'll see that in NYT...}
    Fact you WONT see in NYT, There are no al Qaeda bases in Afghanistan. There will be, of course, because that is where we are moving our troops.
     
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  2. pettyfog

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    Note the above was posted 7-24 and the MSM STILL wont give it print space.

    Obviously they are waiting for Obama to rule out Edwards as Veep.
     
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  3. HatterDon

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    Could this be the same mistress and "love child" [how 1950s of you, 'fog :lol: ] that McCain supposedly had in 2000? Gotta love that Carolina spin machine.

    Oh, and if it were true, why would that be news? Just wondering.
     
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    Re: RE: Things you wont see in the MSM

    Obviously. It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that it's (at this point) an unsubstantiated rumor that's only received attention from the Enquirer (a bastion of responsible reporting if ever there was one), the National Review and Faux News, and that's been refuted by Edwards himself, his alleged mistress, and another guy who says he is the father of the child. For some reason, Faux News buried this ALL THE WAY AT THE END OF THE STORY.
    I wonder why they did that. :roll:
     
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  5. pettyfog

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    Why would they do that? You mean 'take the bullet'?

    I dunno... but I'm pretty sure we'll find out. Of course it IS rumor... but smoke/fire and all that.
     
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    Maybe he was covering for Edwards for another reason -- to keep Edwards in the closet. After all, it was the pert, blonde, intellectual guiding light of the Conservative world who informed us that Edwards was "a fag."

    So which is it?
     
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  7. pettyfog

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    Kind of a stretch to use Coulter's comedy routine as a bullet point. Sorta like refuting Libertarian views with Penn & Teller quotes. .... Well, ONE of the two's quoted, anyway.
     
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    Penn and Teller routinely perform at Libertarian fundraisers? They regularly appear on Libertarian puppet "news networks" pushing whoever their candidate is?

    Yeah, "sorta like that."
     
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  9. pettyfog

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    Okay, then... maybe Jon Stewart, Colbert? Your Libs have their snarky clowns.
    Whatever... Kos diary: the story aint gonna be an un-story by ignoring it

    Why not? The heart of all Lib policy on hard geo-political choices {that's the cases where you cant fix it by raising taxes} is that 'talking about the problem' does something to solve it.

    Ergo...
    - - - -- - - - -
    Which is, AFAICT, the favorite solution of a sizable minority {20%?} of kos commenters regarding anyone they dont like.

    So if 20% of the 25% of the politicized internet population, Kos being far and away the most read poli-blog on the 'net, ......

    Yeah, I know Don.. you dont read it.
     
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  10. HatterDon

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    and 90% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

    All I know is, everytime somebody in Tajikistan, or somewhere at least as remote, burns an American flag, you trumpet it as "typically liberal." Every idiot who says something stupid about Bush, you trumpet as "typically liberal." If we have ownership of all these nutcases, then why can't you be a man an accept that Ann Colter is, indeed, part of the Neo-Con intelligentsia. She wasn't making her "John Edwards is a fag" comment as part of a stand-up routine or in character on a fake news show. She said it as herself at a lucrative fundraiser for conservative issues -- and to great applause and laughter as I remember.

    You have to accept that a major feature of Neocon style is the ruthless, belittling attack on everyone and anyone who isn't 100% intellectually pure. And you can't ignore that those who do it most scathingly have become bright stars in the Neocon universe. You can't applaud Mr. Painkiller and Miss Goebbles in a skirt 90% of the time as righteous true believers, and then pass off the odd racist slur or a little drive-by on the 9/11 widows as "part of their stand up routine." Or, I guess, in your universe, you can.

    Over here, it just looks like hate that's acceptable and hate that isn't.
     
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  11. shinerbockguy

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    every now & then I'm tempted to get into these discussions, but petty - you're posts are just too darn long...

    maybe they'll let president obama speak in front of the brandenberg gate next time he's there...
     
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  12. FulhamAg

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    I think Olbermann equates to Coulter fairly well.
     
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  13. pettyfog

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    Gimme a break, Don. In rebuttal, you START off with something I've never done. Never mind if you could sift through my pasts posts on your example you'd find I dont really give a crap about burning the flag as an expression of politics... except I point to their owhter views in regard as to what they REALLY think about the country.

    I notice you said 'Ruthless belittling,.." ... better than 'Ruhless beheading.." Or 'Die of cancer, you {repugnican, or other party}

    My supposed stats were outlined exactly as a guess... dont keep challeging me to provide examples every time they come up.

    ADDHD, SBG? Who you going to vote for, on the issues, again?

    ;)
     
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    not ADHD, just J-O-B.

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  15. pettyfog

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    Guess we can now add:

    Obama's expertise on rolling tire under-inflation.
    Well, someone did the math, here.

    The sum.. 90,000,000 bbls. Certainly nothing to sneeze at and it would help. Though I question the base suppositions in the first place.
    But it would only cover NINE DAYS of imports. We COULD walk the rest of the year, I suppose.

    First, the idea that regular tuneups will increase your gas milage. How regular? Every 50,000 for most people with newer less than ten y.o.} cars. But the hitch is that dirty air filters no longer cut down gas milage appreciably. Modern systems measure air flow on the engine side of filter and adjust gas flow to maintain optimum efficiency. Ergo, when your filter's dirty, you lose full throttle power instead of gas.

    ANd it's a real bummer when you change plugs every 100,000 miles or so like I do and dont see any improvement in your car's performance.

    On the tires... if you use radials, like say 98% of everbody, then every additional lb of air results in a decreasing return. There's no 'if thirty two is good, thirty eight is better' effect. the 'knee point' is usually 26 to 28 lbs inflation.

    But the REAL problem with Obama saying that is it hints that drilling and saving are the same. Sorry but they do not have the same effect on the market. Decreasing demand without increasing supply just raises the relative arbitrary price of oil. It's called the competitive supplier effect.

    But hey, if you dont believe in a 'world market economy' in the first place...

    At LEAST Obama didnt come up with the numbskull proposal to tap the emergency reserves like some other idiots in his party did.

    None of you have to worry, though... I assume you're not poor.

    Dems just want to get the marginal poor out of their cars and onto mass transit so they can do more federal funding of the big money losing MTA's.

    Finally, GET THIS: There is a sure and natural belief among insiders, both in Government and Industry, that it would be stupid to pump our own crude when we can use OTHER COUNTRIES' oil. That way when they run out, we still have ours.

    So, if you believe in the 'peak oil' figures {not sure I do} then what happens in those now-rich oil economies when their income dries up?

    Dubai and the Emirates have that covered, somewhat.. but what about Saudi Arabia?

    Hmmmmm?


    So, before you believe your elected Democrats on this drilling issue, I would suggest close scrutiny on exactly WHAT George Soros is investing in. We already know where AlGore has put his money.
     
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  16. Clevelandmo

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    Ann Colter doesnt do her thing as part of a fake news or comedy show but the "fag" comment was meant to be comic relief during a talk she was giving. Anyone who does any amount of regular speaking uses or tries to use comic relief.

    I completely agree with FulhamAg that Obermann's venom is equal to Coulters.
     
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  17. pettyfog

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    Bah!

    What NEEDS done is to examine Don's antipathy to, if not outright hatred of, 'Neo-Cons'.

    What IS a 'Neo-Con', anyway?!!!

    Short Answer: A Social Liberal/Progressive/Socialist who learned how to think! A Paleo-Con who realized he actually WAS a bigot, maybe even a fascist.

    Long answer: A Thinking person who examined the comparative ideas and memes of the Right and the Left and figured out alternatives which might accomplish the STATED social and economic aims of both.

    The WORST thing anyone can do is appear to be opposite in political aims while perhaps solving the REAL WORLD social problems postulated by that opponent.

    Stealing their thunder, as it were.

    And it makes EVERYTHING so much nicer to have issues defined in black and white/ right and wrong. Which explains why Pat Buchanan is seen so much on PMS-NBC and why Don was so sympathetic to Ron Paul supporters.
     
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  18. HatterDon

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    Wow! You're right. The MSM does cover stuff up. I never read anywhere about liberals beheading a conservative opponent! :shock:


    Well, if contrast on specific policies = issues, then there is no choice. Beginning in Iowa and continuing until this afternoon, I'm still waiting for my first bit of specificity from Senator Obama. I guess we're all supposed to "hope" there'll be a "change."

    I haven't agreed with the majority of what Senator McCain has said he'll do, but at least I've had something specific to analyze, consider, and decide.

    Wow! :idea: I just realized what the Obama campaign reminds me most of. Fog, See if you agree: Governor Moonbeam himself, Jerry Brown. Remember? He'd talk for 20 minutes and afterwards all you could recall of the speech was the timbre of his voice. Right?
     
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    Ayup.... pretty much so.

    - - - - - -- - - -- -

    Anyway back to the John and Rielle story. There's a Perez Hilton* wannabe who's been following the coverup, now he finds that everything on the web having to do with Rielle Hunter, as well as her close associates, has been scrubbed.

    And the guy I linked to on Kos has been banned from that site. Way to go, Markos... it's truly a different thing for the government to stick their nose into what you can publish, and you have all the right in the world to exclude folks from your site.. but you aint gonna be #1 very long if you keep shutting out people who write about stuff you dont like.
     
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    Another day... another example of how the MSM is bringing about its own demise by failing to cover the story at all. Edwards is already toast, never mind all the scrubbing on the net by his supporters; it's a simple thing, after all, to prove the rumor is groundless and Rielle Hunter has nothing more to lose.

    As Roger Simon puts it:

    Actually, I didn't believe a word from him once I found out he'd been a torts lawyer.
     
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