Saudi's arrest male flirters/BBC word association

At Little Green Footballs, the site recently named by CAIR {and the MSM who equate CAIR as just another social justice group} as a 'hatemonger' for simply pointing out these articles and letting people comment.

.. or 'fundamentalist'?
Or flaming freakin' LOONY?

Beeb using connotive negative wordplay? Gee, we never noticed that before.. heh!

Also:
Now if they call THIS conservative, then...

UAE: BEHEAD MANNEQUINS, SHARJAH AUTHORITIES ORDER

One small step for man...

 

RE: Saudi

Cavemen were more evolved than Saudis.

 

RE: Saudi

Sorry, Andy... cant let you get away with THAT!

It's what happens when you let yourself get blackmailed and extorted by the previously loony few. WHERE the ONLY 'free speech' is from the pulpit in the mosque.
And exactly what's happening in the rest of the titular muslim countries. Even where the US has little or no involvement or influence..like Burma and Indonesia.

But there's SOME who would only give you a blank stare when you point that out. If it's NOT our fault then whose fault is it?

 

RE: Saudi

Sigh. 'fog - BBC is just using Conservative in its pure form (i.e., based upon the actual dictionary definition) - just like there are conservative sects of Judaism, there are conservative sects of Islam. Fundamentalism is something else entirely, though are more often than not offshoots of the conservative branches of religions.

Heck, there is even Conservative Christianity - nothing evil or "fundamentalist" about it, just a different standard for modesty and behavior.

Now, I'll be the first to admit that I think conservative Islam goes too far, with both their rules and their punishments, but who am I to judge another man's religion?

 

RE: Saudi

For the record, I stand by my comment.

What makes Saudi Arabia worse than most places is that the state mandates and enforces religious brainwashing. In other countries the state leaves it up to the individual (or more likely their parents) to become a religious nutter or not, which obviously keeps it lower key.

 

When was it their membership dropped off by 90%, Don?

 

Well golly, don... let's just reset to your POV.

Yes, I've read their site, does that count?

I've also read their support of the 'Flying Imams' acting out in MPLS. And their support of the Imams suit of the John Doe Passengers who complained to the airline about the 'weird actions'.

As well as their support of the Muslim Cabbies who refused to carry drunks, anyone with alcohol in their baggage, or some of them even with dogs.

Also of the cashier who refused to handle wrapped pork products.

You might explain to me how that helps muslim americans fit into the mainstream.

Or whose civil rights are affected, there. They have a right to be employed at a job and then define the job?

Does CAIR have a view on the civil rights of a Westerner in the lands these people come from? If they all felt like Ibrahim Hooper says he views the case of the Brit teacher, it would be good. Though his article on it seemed a little tepid in her defense, focussing on how to deal with insults.

But CAIR also attacks those who protest the building of a 'symbolic prayer tower' at a mosque in St Louis. The protestors were first told that it was symbolic, no sound system, thus their concerns were unfounded. THEN they were told that the call to prayer wouldnt be heard, but it would be used for 'special announcements'.

 

Re: RE: Saudi

You're human being so you can judge anyone and everyone. In particular you should judge a person's religion/culture where there is gross gender discrimination within that religion/culture.

An example would be that in America it is illegal to practice polygamy. This is because Americans decided to judge Mormons. Americans said, "Mormons your religous practice is backwards and you must stop having multiple wives... one wife, and one only". Now 90% of Mormons only have one wife.

So often times pointing fingers at people and judging them leads to positive change, i.e., gender equality, fewer wife beatings, no more slaves, all color water fountains, etc...

 

Re: RE: Saudi

But Mormons are white and somewhat open to constructive criticism. Muslims are most definitely not open to criticism of any form, and they are not white, so when you say something bad, you're labeled racist and dismissed.

 

Don You're disingenuous on that airport prayer!

The rugs were rolled out RIGHT AT THE GATE!!! Get5 associated with the details... also dont you find it a little suspicious that all this happened at one and the same incident.

Quit being a rights apologist and recognize when an act is being put on to make an impression.

Finally, putting the lie to your position is the public whitebread reaction to muslims immediately after 9/11. in the BIG picture..{Hillary's 'I just met a woman' memes dont count} .. there was almost NO reaction compared to what might have been expected.

I am sick and F#@$@#G tired of the Victim mentality that some people want to push, And which was the exact motivation of the flying imams I dont feel guilty about what a few idiots do because I take the overall effect into my considerations.

And the people who are mosty loudly trying to turn the war against terror into a 'war against Islam' seem to be largely Muslim! And -apparently- you.

In fact, if you care.. which I doubt you do, LGF, that 'very hate site' referred to in the first post, just had a three month running battle with "Gates of Vienna for their support of Neo-Nazi Euro politicians who want all Muslims kicked out of Europe.
Sorry Your villains cant all be tarred with one brush!

 

Now... let's talk about that Christian Church bell tower.

Do you realize that almost all new such installations are subject to municipal noise ordinances? If you hear one, 99-1 it is grandfathered.

It will be interesting to see what happens down the road when that mosque tower actually starts broadcasting muezzin.

 

Lyle. While I personally feel that Islam, in many ways, goes too far in limiting the role of women, I don't necessarily agree that defining different roles for the genders is a bad thing.

As far as the Mormon thing goes, 0% of members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints practice polygamy - they stopped the practice in 1890, so unless some couple were married 108 years ago and are still going.... Yes, there are off-shoot sects that practice Polygamy, but they contain excommunicated Mormons and those who never were members of the 13 million member church.

 

Oh? you got links?

 

Summary: RFRA Struck down; As it should have been.

Point remains, though... that tower WILL be used for Call to Prayer. And anyone objecting WILL be subject to overboard criticism.