Cohen Lynching?

You know, I really liked the show on the whole, but sad to say, life will go on. I'll find other footy podcasts out there. The thing is now it's Cohen's battle to fight. The statements on some of the LFC sites seem to me to be wide open for civil culpability, if not criminal. Over to you, Steven.

 

I'v never missed a WSD podcast in 2 years since I've found it, I don't know what Im going to do.

Suggestions for others worth my time?

 

Football Weekly Guardian podcast (comes out on Mondays and Thursdays)
The Game Podcast London Times (comes out on Mondays usually)

Cohen, I'm pretty sure, listened to the FWG podcast since he referenced their conversations regularly. Both podcasts are higher quality WSD, but they're not daily. Mostly the cover England, but they go over La Liga, Serie A, and the Bundesliga usually, and anything else big in world football news.

 

soccernet surprisingly has a good one. whenever hosting, adriano russo is great and the producer adam is a fulham fan so each episode we get a little cottage flavor.

good stuff.

 

In addition, I found these from the WSD MBs -- never a good idea to go there, but there I am --

1. The Guardian - 2x per week 40mins per
1. The Game - 40 mins per week
3. World Football Phone-In - 40 mins per week
4. Soccernet - 2x per week 45-60 per
5. Italian football fancast - 40 mins per week?
6. Arsecast - 40 mins per week (only for Arse fans)

Maybe he was wrong on the last one :lol:

 

very verbose, but a good read. sheds some light onto things that neither side wanted to discuss.

http://socceruniverse.ning.com/profiles ... supporters

my favorite part for the sheer gall, and because its exactly what politicians do:

 

What people forget is that Cohen's show is only half serious. Some Liverpool fans take themselves way too seriously, lots of people do it in general. Hillsborough was a massive failure and tragedy, but they've turned it into a Holocaust like event where one cannot deny what happened. The truth is there is still a lot of gray. The Yorkshire police that were there that day still deny wrong doing. There are secret files still to be read. There's the fact that there is Heysel and that some Liverpool fans' live cro-magnon like existences (fighting, fake tickets, burglery, etc....). People not from Liverpool, like Cohen, still don't fully buy the government and accepted version of Hillsborough. I actually agree with one of Cohen's comments in that the English media has bought the Taylor Report whole sale and will not challenge it. If you read what a lot of journalists say they aren't really being journalists, but saying this is what happened you have to accept this version of events. They seemed to be more focused on getting the police to admit it as all their fault. Personally I find that to be nonsense. Not to mention there is a certain amount of police hate in some circles in the media. No doubt the police screwed up exactly as the Taylor Report says, but crowds have to look out for themselves at times and they didn't that day.

Anyway, I'm flabbergasted companies caved to a Liverpool fan only boycott.

 

Since I am bound and determined to help beat this issue into the ground, here's a good read.

What am I going to do on the ride home today.

 

I can't say I was always the biggest Steven Cohen fan, but I had been coming around to him over the last six months. It is sad that this had to end this way. WSD was a decent listen and will be missed by many. While there are podcasts and other such shows out there, it is not the same as having a live radio show five days a week for two hours each day. Right or wrong, it should not have come to this.

 

I'd say it shows an unfortunate pattern of developments for some reason recently specific to soccer talking heads. Saying something controversial, which is then ostricized by a minority who are hell bent on taking their pound of flesh, should not lead to such unfortunate "constructive" gagging and censorship.

One of the smarmy, sarcastic Big Soccer bloggers (redundant?) over there can't seem to stop piling on, and for what? Cohen is no longer enjoying and making money doing something he obviously enjoyed making his livelihood.

Enough, you won. Get over it and move on.

 

I actually have no problem with the Liverpool boycotts. Cohen said something they didn't like and they had every right, as consumers, to do what they did.

Where I draw the line is threats to his family, though admitedly, Cohen crossed the line as well (posting the e-mail addresses of listeners he didnt like on his website). [not that two wrongs make a right, but you get the point]

Frankly, you've got to be a complete idiot to not know that Hillsborough is a sensitive subject to Liverpool. Heck, they successfully petitioned UEFA to have their UCL game moved from that day last year. You may not agree with their level of sensitivity, but you have to at least recognize it. Cohen gambled, thinking that the negative press would be positive for his program. He lost.

Me, I've always preferred The Football Show anyway, even though its on less often.

 

Don't know that I blame anyone all that much. Everyone and every entity got to express themselves in this debate/debacle.

However, to me, it further emphasizes that networks many times have pudding for backbones, as well as brains.

 

More -- http://pointoneohradio.com/pods/its_epi ... 090823.mp3

This Conor Brenan... what a huge ego on this guy.

 

To be clear, and Don was not saying otherwise, I called it "constructive" censorship and agree with Don that everyone was wel within their rights. However, I still think the networks are very spineless. And that is just part of being at sales at that level.

Also, I agree wholheartedly with Don's last point. Which is why he is a "true American warrior, soldier, and hero" always willing to make the "ultimate sacrifice."

 

Bigsoccer is ludicrous. I've been red carded there for simply responding to people. There is much buffoonery there. Moderators there also think disagreeing with people is trolling. Fulham's offal or fulhamusa is way better. People can go on and on all they want to.

 

I think the term lynching is appropriate. Nobody is saying he was strung up from a tree branch, but he is the victim of a mob. So apropos in my eyes.

 

Well if we're going to argue semantics here...

Cohen is Jewish, and alleged there was a lot of anti-Semitism, some even read on air. And he did lose his business.

So would pogrom work best?