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Re: NBA Season

Postby VegasJustin » Sun May 13, 2012 2:55 am

At least we won that game. I think Magic was right, Gasol and Brown could have been out if they would have lost. Gasol actually showed up and performed. Bynum showed up defensively and on the boards. Kobe had a decent game and luckily he didn't need to be great as I'm not sure how much he had left after carrying the team for six games. World Peace was the biggest difference. He was great on defense and shot the three well.


The people who bitch at Bynum are wrong. Even if he is not a franchise player, who are we going to get to replace him? This Howard for Bynum thing isn't happening and it isn't like Howard isn't a problem either. He also does stupid shit and can't decide whether he wants to stay or leave Orlando. After Howard, there is no comparable center to Bynum so we can't do anything.


These people need to watch basketball. When your perimeter game sucks, and it did before tonight, then your inside game is also going to suck as the other team can run two or three defenders at your center. This is why Howard is so good. Orlando can shoot the three and have done so for years. Defenders can't just leave Richardson or Turkoglu wide open. Bynum needs to improve when he gets double teamed, but it isn't his fault that players aren't hitting shots.



Fans need to stop tripping over everything Bynum says or does. He's the second best center in the NBA, what more do people want? He has the potential to be even better if he improves his attitude. Maybe if people calmed down, he would improve his attitude.
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Re: NBA Season

Postby SoCalJoe » Wed May 16, 2012 3:11 pm

East;

Philly matches up w/Boston very well, and it should continue w/tight, ugly games the rest of the series.

Indiana ties it w/Miami, still think the Heat will win, but no Chris Bosh has turned an easy series into a battle.

West;

Can't imagine the Lakers not to turning up tonight and making the game very competitive. Kobe is going to have to guard Westbrook because Sessions and Blake have has much chance as me and you in stopping him.

Spurs are the deepest they've been in a long time. The Big 3 (Duncan, Ginobli, Parker) are as healthy this time of year as they've been in awhile. Should dispense w/the Clippers easily. Isn't it time to hear from a couple of Spurs fans? Or since they've been spoiled so much they can't be bothered until the next round? :violence-axechase:
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Re: NBA Season

Postby HatterDon » Wed May 16, 2012 10:03 pm

SoCalJoe wrote:East;

Philly matches up w/Boston very well, and it should continue w/tight, ugly games the rest of the series.

Indiana ties it w/Miami, still think the Heat will win, but no Chris Bosh has turned an easy series into a battle.

West;

Can't imagine the Lakers not to turning up tonight and making the game very competitive. Kobe is going to have to guard Westbrook because Sessions and Blake have has much chance as me and you in stopping him.

Spurs are the deepest they've been in a long time. The Big 3 (Duncan, Ginobli, Parker) are as healthy this time of year as they've been in awhile. Should dispense w/the Clippers easily. Isn't it time to hear from a couple of Spurs fans? Or since they've been spoiled so much they can't be bothered until the next round? :violence-axechase:


No, we've just been bit in the butt so many times in recent years, we don't want to crow.
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Re: NBA Season

Postby VegasJustin » Thu May 17, 2012 3:04 am

The Lakers had a seven point lead with two minutes left and let it go. Instead of letting Bynum go to work, we gave the ball to Kobe who turned the ball over once and didn't do anything offensively. This happens to every great player and it sucks that it had to happen in the playoffs in such a big game.

When we should have gave the ball to Kobe, we let Blake shoot from three at the end of the game. As everybody can guess, that didn't go in. We wouldn't want others to step up, now would we?

I didn't think we would go far after the horrible Denver series, but this was the chance to own this series and we let it go away. I think we can beat anybody from the East and the Spurs, but that's not happening because we gave a game away. That sucks more than anything.
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Re: NBA Season

Postby SoCalJoe » Thu May 17, 2012 11:55 am

HatterDon wrote:
SoCalJoe wrote:East;

Philly matches up w/Boston very well, and it should continue w/tight, ugly games the rest of the series.

Indiana ties it w/Miami, still think the Heat will win, but no Chris Bosh has turned an easy series into a battle.

West;

Can't imagine the Lakers not to turning up tonight and making the game very competitive. Kobe is going to have to guard Westbrook because Sessions and Blake have has much chance as me and you in stopping him.

Spurs are the deepest they've been in a long time. The Big 3 (Duncan, Ginobli, Parker) are as healthy this time of year as they've been in awhile. Should dispense w/the Clippers easily. Isn't it time to hear from a couple of Spurs fans? Or since they've been spoiled so much they can't be bothered until the next round? :violence-axechase:


No, we've just been bit in the butt so many times in recent years, we don't want to crow.



Don, they've won 15 games in a row (5 in the playoffs) in typical Spurs fashion. They are just going about their business. Spurs are peaking at the perfect time.
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Re: NBA Season

Postby DCHeather » Sat May 19, 2012 6:55 am

I went to bed with the Celtics leading by a comfortable margin, only to wake-up to find out they lost by nine? :doh:
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Re: NBA Season

Postby VegasJustin » Sun May 20, 2012 12:15 am

The loss by the Lakers is a good thing. Maybe now Mitch will trade Pau Gasol. The only fucking star this side of the Mississippi that would rather turn the ball over instead of taking a wide open jumper. He might not have lost us the game, but he certainly contributed in a big way. This guy is a no fucking show in big games. This is the second playoffs in a row that he's been horrible. Trade his ass for Rondo.
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Re: NBA Season

Postby nevzter » Sun May 20, 2012 3:04 am

Gasol's no-shot was pathetic. Open 12 footer and he throws it away.
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Re: NBA Season

Postby SoCalJoe » Mon May 21, 2012 11:37 am

nevzter wrote:Gasol's no-shot was pathetic. Open 12 footer and he throws it away.


Yep, and he's been roasted in the LA media about it. Let's see if OKC can finish it tonight, otherwise it's going 7.

Spurs keep it rolling, 18 games in a row and counting. They'll lose some games from here on out, but they are going to win 8 and get that 5th championship.
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Re: NBA Season

Postby nevzter » Mon May 21, 2012 4:15 pm

Lakers, I give a 20% chance to even stretch it to 7. They'll probably go out tonight - there's something wrong with that club b/c they're not reaching their talent potential these days. Is it Brown's tactics, Bynum's antics or Gasol's recent affliction of balllessness? Or, has Kobe reached an "age" where he can't simply turn it on any longer...
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Re: NBA Season

Postby Clevelandmo » Mon May 21, 2012 5:16 pm

nevzter wrote:Lakers, I give a 20% chance to even stretch it to 7. They'll probably go out tonight - there's something wrong with that club b/c they're not reaching their talent potential these days. Is it Brown's tactics, Bynum's antics or Gasol's recent affliction of balllessness? Or, has Kobe reached an "age" where he can't simply turn it on any longer...


You have a guy named "Brown" with a very significant Cleveland connection. Seriously, how do you expect to win anything, we dont.
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Re: NBA Season

Postby nevzter » Mon May 21, 2012 5:27 pm

Clevelandmo wrote:
nevzter wrote:Lakers, I give a 20% chance to even stretch it to 7. They'll probably go out tonight - there's something wrong with that club b/c they're not reaching their talent potential these days. Is it Brown's tactics, Bynum's antics or Gasol's recent affliction of balllessness? Or, has Kobe reached an "age" where he can't simply turn it on any longer...


You have a guy named "Brown" with a very significant Cleveland connection. Seriously, how do you expect to win anything, we dont.


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Re: NBA Season

Postby VegasJustin » Mon May 21, 2012 6:57 pm

It's a combination of the first three Nevster. Kobe has been pretty damn good this series and I don't blame him for us being down 3-1. The problem starts with the coach. He is horrible offensively. His offense in Cleveland was give the ball to LeBron and let him work. He doesn't know how to coach an offensive game and that's bad because we play in the west with some really offensive coaches.

Then Bynum doesn't help with his attitude. The last game wasn't his fault and was actually Brown's fault. He kept him in the game in the first half and gave him a minute rest in the fourth quarter. No wonder he looked tired at the end of the game. Everybody knew it, but Brown. His attitude really needs to improve though or management will find a way to put him in Orlando.


Gasol is the biggest problem. He is a star and the most skilled big man in the game. He folds under pressure. If he doesn't come out and play well, then he will be traded. He is not reliable in the playoffs and there are plenty of other power forwards out there, like Josh Smith, who won't do that. Magic blames Brown for the way Gasol is playing, but Gasol was horrible last year with Phil Jackson coaching him. There's no excuse for him to be this bad.


They have a slim to none chance of winning tonight. In road elimination games, they get destroyed. Kobe wants players to step up and the supporting cast doesn't step up so Kobe gets pissed off and says fuck it. Sometimes he gives up, Phoenix 2006, and sometimes he tries to win the game by himself. Either way, they always get blown out. We should be up 3-1 and are the better team, but they still won't show up.
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Re: NBA Season

Postby VegasJustin » Tue May 22, 2012 12:05 am

I was right. Nobody showed up other than World Peace and Kobe tried to win the game by himself. That didn't work out, but can't blame Kobe as he had 42 points. The rest of the guys looked like they didn't care.


I was always a person to defend Bynum. Whenever he would do something stupid, I would defend his actions. After the loss he says he doesn't care where he plays next season. That's it. I'm tired the defending him. He doesn't care so fuck it. Mitch needs to pull off a trade for Dwight. It's obvious Bynum doesn't care about playing for this team so it's useless having him on it.


Gasol started out strong, but then faded when the going got tough. He actually tried, but it didn't get him anywhere. This is another player that needs to go. Trade him for Josh Smith and a pick or straight up for Rondo. Either are better than a skilled big man who can't do anything in big situations.



I feel sorry for Mitch. He has alot to do. He can't simply leave this team as is because the fans and media will be all over him. Everybody in the league knows that Pau and Bynum are going to be shopped around. This will make it harder to trade them. Mitch is a genius so I trust him to do the right things. Bring us a contender.
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Re: NBA Season

Postby Clevelandmo » Tue May 22, 2012 9:53 am

VegasJustin wrote: The problem starts with the coach. He is horrible offensively. His offense in Cleveland was give the ball to LeBron and let him work. He doesn't know how to coach an offensive game and that's bad because we play in the west with some really offensive coaches.


I thought Brown hired Kuester away from Detroit to be his offensive coordinator. The year he did that for Brown in Cleveland, our offense was great. We had the best record in the NBA and Brown got coach of the year. Then Detroit hired him as head coach and the offense went back to "give the ball to LeBron" like you say.
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